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nunga 
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 Topic: Off Topic.....NZ PoliticsPosted: 22 Jan 2023 at 3:02am |
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What do you guys think of the resignation of Jacinda Ardern?. I think she knows dam well she was going to lose by a land slide in the upcoming election and she is jumping ship so she can tell everyone that she left and was not booted out! Crime is way up, food prices have never been so high the cops cant seem to do anything, She has run the country into the ground! Well thats my views anyway. Your thoughts?
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kruzaroad
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 4:19am |
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I don't disagree with state the country is in.
I really don't think it would have mattered what government or leader was in with the way things gone any government would have to have been a miracle worker to get us through what has been going on in the world in a better condition. For all the other parties talk and how they would have done it. Talk is cheap, political promises usually turn to crap or get desolved in a successive government. National won't get on top of crime. That is just posturing, all that is going to happen is gun owners are going to be few and far between as more fire arms are used in crimes. Crime is here to stay and probly get worse its an image people like, gangster and plays into the social structure of the Web. I think ardern was a good leader. I think watching her towards the end she was getting over it.. I think she was right to step down. She had become a much weaker leader towards the end of it all. I personally believe that she really was over it. She's in her 40s,has a new family, a hectic life, heaps of burden running a government and its just going to get worse, naf that. I think she just came to her scenes and has set herself very well for the next stage. |
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 10:46am |
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Totally agree Nunga!
Thank God she's gone! We had a "Bye Bye Ardern" party last night!  And have you seen the commentary overseas about her? Many in the UK saw through her manipulation, her failures (Housing, Marsden Point, Amount of Borrowing, Pike River, wearing the Hijab, etc...), her destruction of Free Speech, her lies, lies, lies.... the list is endless! I'd also add that she left early so she'd look "good" for a freebie job at the useless UN this year! I bet she'll be in New York by September?! The USA are welcome to her.... Good Riddance I say! And don't come back!!!...  |
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 1:23pm |
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Many in leaders in the world have praised her.
So how much did you two lose through her time in government? |
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 2:18pm |
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Pike river happened under national.
Marsden point, has been contraversal since it started. The ability of Marsden point was a useful back up for nz. The CO2 shortage was because another plant failed. So back up would have been great. However over the next 15 to 20 years as electric and alternate energy comes in Marsden point would be obsolete. Every government gets bitched at for its borrowing and spending. Its been exceptional circumstances the last couple of years, a faltering world economy. I think any party in power would have borrowed and got bitched at. No I'm not a Labour supporter, or any other party. I refuse to vote for a bunch of people who lie, based on their lies. But I keep an eye on what's going on because it affects the mood of the society I live in, that by default me. I have no vested interest in one party. But one in politics. |
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 3:31pm |
Thats a very good question, Thanks for asking. I lost my farther during lockdown, couldn't go to see him on his death bed, couldnt go to the funeral to say good buy. Had to lay off 3 workers and close my company because i wasnt aloud to be open. We have been broken into 3 times in 2 months and the cops wont do a thing about it. The C02 shortage wasnt because of "another plant failed", there is only one plant left because the government in all their wisdom closed marsten point which left only one plant making food grade C02 But what really ticked me off about her was the way she talked to us in her news briefings, she talked to us like we were in pre school....but dont worry ..."New Zealand we got this!"
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 4:01pm |
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I’m glad she’s gone. Was about time.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 4:38pm |
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That's correct there is a plant doing CO2, and it had a major breakdown. That break down stopped it suppling CO2 till its repaired. ( which I think is estimated to be fixed about nowish)
That with the limited amount available from overseas combined to cause the situation. I'm sorry about your dad and bussness. I guess you got a reason to be angry, and many others, but this is reality. There was world wide epidemic going on. I haven't had covid yet and and huge part of that is due to lock downs, and I'm thankful for that. There's a world wide economic situation going on, people all around the world are losing thier livelihoods, it's not exclusive to nz because of the government. There's no way of knowing if any other party would have done better. Talk is cheap, cheaper from politicians. Hindsight is a valuable thing. Hysteria isnt Edited by kruzaroad - 22 Jan 2023 at 4:39pm |
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Posted: 24 Jan 2023 at 1:24pm |
 Well This reveals a sad fact as I seen that radical left take the job more like a actorish-manager. I believe that the left party in US had sent an UN offer to her. Some only see the surface but I wonder how US make it to manipulate west world behind that NZ, a south pole island nation has the exact same economic period along with the US path?What ever thanks to her leaving and the up coming reccession will make no difference. Let me recall Truss (pre-PM in UK) just report her work like a underling to Secretary of State. "It is done" she txted LOL. We used to embrassed left things for the old right thoughts derivered more from ruler class and enslave man and women of working class. However, left had gone ridical and find their own way to forge a PC tyranny by manipulating media, education and judical system. Thanks to the soft of the left ruling sytle, the world do become softer and prosper (after cold war?). However, acrossing from (red necks) North American to (Otaku) East Asian, they will find out that there is a certain high price for taking political free-ride. Neither right nor left will do what they promised and will only take advs of them and then treat them like sh*ti. The only way is to fight for your own interest by you self! Ha, think I have gone too far. so end here.
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Its all roses till it affects you then, people start crying and moaning foul. People seem to forget that nothing is stable. World wars, regional wars, crocked politicians, monentry systems falling, World wars. Things get quite, people forget, invest in dreams thinking its all good. Build lives, fortunes that rely on a systems that have shown to be unstable in past. Then have the cheek to moan, point, fingers, blame the controlling forces, say how hard done by they are. Well they put themselves in that position. But worse is they actually sit back and take it instead of going and just doing it. I lost two good jobs both due to covid restrictions. Ah well, sh*t happens if you base your life on an unstable system. To many people wrapped up in the luxury of society. Following rules that they could have disobeyed and taken the risk but didn't and now have regrets they will carry for life. No one but you are responsible for your actions. You can blame who you like, but it's up to you to read the play. Its up to you to know when to take action. It's up to you decide when you need to brake the rules because something is more important to you. And if you haven't then don't cry because life treated you unfair and blame those around you. Ask yourself why you were such a limp dick that you didn't at least try. Every thing you need in life nature has provided for you. Everthing you want in life man has made for you. |
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