Sig Sauer ASP20

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   Thanks.
 I'm hoping to get 50m inch groups constantly, but haven't got there yet.
 Hares are wising up and not letting me get as close in open paddock. 

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kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2022 at 6:58am
	Thanks. I'm hoping to get 50m inch groups constantly, but haven't got there yet. Hares are wising up and not letting me get as close in open paddock.

Ralph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 Sep 2022 Location: Orewa Status: Offline Posts: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ralph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2022 at 7:05am
	Why don't you try baiting the hares, leave out vege scaps bits of fruit over a period of time and draw them into you, might work.
	Sig Sauer ASP20 .177

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2022 at 8:13am
	Probly work well but I enjoy learning thier movements, stalking them in the fields at night, picking them off around edges during the day. Its a slow constant constant pressure. I've thought about getting the 22lr out but it's honestly just not as enjoyable. To easy really. I've been keeping the arc of the pellets in mildot drop or gain as ive been doing this. The pellets take differnt flight paths. All targets were set to level with a lazer level. Shots were fewer but taken with more care and stopped when two touched each other. Most shots taken at any distance 3. (first 2 touched each other out to 30m then 35m and 40m required a third shot for both brands.) Sorry cut top of pic. AA field deablo on left, jsb exact heavy on right Edited by kruzaroad - 11 Dec 2022 at 8:19am

mercs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Apr 2020 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 341	Post Options Post Reply Quote mercs Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 11:22am
	Hi all rain stopped so managed to get some numbers down on paper. ASP20 Pellet Penetration. Target Distance 38 yards. Positive measurement is with digital vernier to back of pellet. Negative measurements for proud pellets from back of skirt to board. Warm day, overcast and strong breeze. By the numbers, Sig Dagger and JSB Hades gave the best results and I thought the 8.4 grain JSB Exact did well. H&N were about 30% less effective which I did not expect. Gamo....... Pellet 1, Gamo Platinum 5 grains, -1.81mm (all noise 8th place)) Pellet 2, JSB Exact 8.44 grains, +2.31mm (3rd place) Pellet 3, Sig Air Dagger 10.03 grains, +3.03mm (1st place) Pellet 4, JSB Match Hades 10.34 grains, +2.95mm (second place) Pellet 5, H&N Baracuda Match 10.64 grains, +2.18mm (5th place) Pellet 6, H&N Hunter Extreme 9.57 grains, +2.0mm (6th place) Pellet 7, Gamo Rocket destroyer 9.56 grains, +1.21mm (7th place) Pellet 8, Gamo G-Buffalo 15.4 grains, -1.48mm (8th place) Target Board firmly mounted and all shots were in front of post to prevent flex. 18mm laminated custom wood Edited by mercs - 12 Dec 2022 at 11:25am

Ralph Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 Sep 2022 Location: Orewa Status: Offline Posts: 51	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ralph Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 11:36am
	Wow great effort Mark and some surprising results Where do you source the Sig Daggers from? thanks
	Sig Sauer ASP20 .177

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 918	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 2:13pm
	That's awesome, good results. Yes where did you get the sig pellets? Can you load a pic of them?

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 4:09pm
	That 10.?? gr seems to be the sweet spot for accuracy and penitration in general. Sweet idea. Cheers. What are sig skirts like compared to next two best. Those hades hit hard out of 22. Wonder how much theat head shape plays a part?

jwabfrog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Nov 2021 Location: Thames Status: Offline Posts: 159	Post Options Post Reply Quote jwabfrog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 2:42am
	I agree with Ralph, can't complain with those groups at 40m! Great shooting. Looks like the JSBs are a better option to me.

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 4:46am
	Dinner wasn't a big fan of them, earlier today. Edited by kruzaroad - 13 Dec 2022 at 4:47am

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 5:00am
	25m sitting. Exact group is more likely to hit the back of brain low, which I'm assuming is pellet variation as well as my shooting I suspect if sort the head size on AA I'm going to punch some holes. Best find out I suppose

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 9:41am
	This may be why the sig is grouping better with exact. That should be gram not gr under weight From my experience with .22 16gr AA field deablo, thus is a pretty extreme spread of head size for them. I may get another tin and make sure it wasn't just this batch. But exact are giving me a closer head size in equal weight. Edited by kruzaroad - 13 Dec 2022 at 10:20am

mercs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 Apr 2020 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 341	Post Options Post Reply Quote mercs Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 11:19am
	Sig pellets from Magnum Sports Stratford Venom and Dagger available in .177 and .22

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Dec 2022 at 3:09pm
	So decided 35m be a good test for head size. Only got AA heavy done this evening. But it seems to like one size better. Only one I pulled the shot on. Was coming up to fast and mistimed the pull. Hope fully get exact done same tomorrow and see if it prefures the same head size. I don't think the sigs have a choke?

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Dec 2022 at 3:43am
	Exact heavy. Things to note my shooting wasn't as sharp. I've gone from evening where gun has been at higher temp from day to morning where gun has been at lower temp during night. Over cast and last three shots @4.53mm were done in rain. I have seen a video where there was a impact change shooting thru a sprinkler, though I'm of the option that as it was a fine sunny day the sprinkler was causing a convection air current that you wouldn't get if it was actually raining. 4.50mm target I'm dubious about top left shot as when I fired the cross hairs were at top of bulls on black line. 4.51mm target was a well shot target! 4.53mm only for hell of it as had 8 pellets but not feasible due to pellet amount. Been interesting and helps to explain some of the unsorted pellets groups. So what pellet would you choose? Personally if they make AA in 4.50mm I'd go for them Sorting out 4.50mm and 4.51mm for hunting. But for practically the exact 4.52mm is just as good and an easier size to get. What your verdict?

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2622	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Dec 2022 at 4:04am
	Back to sig things. My over view so far. Accurate, well made, rugged, comfortable, lot less hold sensitive than I originally thought, well balanced, like the trigger has a clear second stage and crisp. The piston has a sound when cocking that just sounds fing awsome that for some reason I absolutely love. Intial breaking of barrel can take some force but cocking motion easy and smooth. Its a keeper for me and would be interested in a .22 and a one to lock up as a collectable in years to come. I can see why ppl love em.