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    Posted: Yesterday at 6:22pm
Hi. I’m popping in here so that I can accumulate enough rep to be able to PM people in the For Sale section of the forum, so feel free to be chatty LOL

I haven't used an air rifle since I was a kid and don't even remember the brands of the couple that I had.

I moved back to NZ and bought a few acres beside about 18 odd acres of bush next door. Well, there are a few small pests wandering about that I would like to deal with and I can’t be bothered with the rigmarole of getting a FAL and a safe etc….so an Air Rifle it is.

Once I’ve dealt with a few of the pests, I’d also like something that is well made enough to be accurate so that I can amuse myself with some target shooting as well.
Anyhoo, I have a bit of reading to do it seems as there’s way more to it than the knackered old plinker dad gave me as a kid.

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Hi and welcome to the forum.  Here you will find a group of very knowledgeable air gunners who will willingly share their knowledge - you need only ask.

There is a good mix of serious target shooters, plinkers, hunters and professional pest controllers within this group.

Sounds like you came into air gunning and ultimately this group along the same path as me.  A life sentence block with a pest problem.   In my case, mostly possums eating the veggies, fruit and even chook food. The final straw was breaking one of my daughter's favourite standard roses!   With little knowledge about air guns other than not needing a firearms license to buy anything other than a PCP, I purchased a Gamo .22 on Tradme only because it was the only .22 on TradeMe at the time that wasn't too expensive and was close enough away for  me to go and pick up rather than having to deal with mail-order forms and having it sent through the licenced dealer network.  While not a top quality air gun, my Gamo has dealt with the possums, hares and even a turkey that was starting to hang around my chickens.

I have caught the airgun bug and now have 4 air rifles and two pistols which mostly get used for plinking though some of them still used to keep the pest numbers down.

What part of the country are you from?  There may be other forum members who will be happy to meet with you and let you try their guns and help you find what suits you. 

Anyway - once again WELCOME.
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Hi R0B0, welcome to our part of the airgun world.
Good that you are going to check things out.
 
Airguns are a great option for pest control and there are plenty of choices.

Look forward to future posts.

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Hi.
Think my first question would be, what will you do most?
If its going to be mostly target at end of day you may want to get something of lesser power than usual for hunting... Buy still have the fpe for closer range pests.
Makes the gun easier to shoot. A lot of target guns are low powered.
Visa versa too. If your going to be using mainly for pest control you might want a slightly more powerful gun that though accurate wont give you hole in hole accuracy.
Then there's the scope. I have a hawk vantage on one rifle with wedges.
Its ao and about 24x mag.
For target shooting its great or being in set place.
The wedges give me a much wider spread over the vertical mildots which in turns gives me a lot more points of aim on the scope distance. ao adjusts out any parralax error. Awsome scope and leathal for accuracy.
How ever for hunting i hate the bloody thing. Have to dial in foucus if its out, have a lot more distance marks to remember, i find it difficult trying to dial a scope standing and rabbits you spring out of blue, close by don't tend to hang around while you fiddle with scope.
Now.im trying 3-9.x 40 scopes fixed parralax. Just killed a none air rifle rated one and about to try an air rifle rated one.
For me the advantage of a set parralax scope hunting is to much to ignore.
No time wasted focusing objective lens..smaller and sleeker.. less moving parts to go out of aline... Less aim points to rember as without wedges the line of sight intersects the pellets path much higher in it arc.
Down side is hold... Inconsistent hold will lead to parralax issues.
Once you're looking at few models guns and scopes you want, then put them up here before you buy. You can avoid a few pitfalls with the knowledge stashed in members heads.
Welcome to the slippery slope of air rifle addicts


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Originally posted by R0b0tMaf1a R0b0tMaf1a wrote:

 bought a few acres beside about 18 odd acres of bush next door. 

Welcome bro,

Living the dream.

If your in Dunedin I got a Prosport you can try, heavy but it's a mans gun, accurate as, last forever.
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Originally posted by vault vault wrote:


If your in Dunedin I got a Prosport you can try, heavy but it's a mans gun, accurate as, last forever.

That's a very kind offer, but I'm about as far from you as I could get. I'm up in the Bay of Islands.


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Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

Hi.
Think my first question would be, what will you do most?


I think first and foremost, I would like to have the gun more suited to dealing with the pests. If I find that it is not great for targets, then I can't always get something more suited to that when the novelty of using the pest gun for targets wears off.

I've just been invited to a pistol club too, so who knows...maybe I'll end up with a FAL after all.

As for optics, I know exactly what you're talking about as I am into photography and lens swapping or missing shots due to having the wrong glass on is something I'm all too familiar with.

At this stage I will have to look up what wedges do, and I saw someone selling a gun I am curious about. It comes without the scope and rings. I have to look up those too. 

When it comes to this stuff, I am Jon Snow.
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Originally posted by -Ec -Ec wrote:


Sounds like you came into air gunning and ultimately this group along the same path as me.  A life sentence block with a pest problem.

I purchased a Gamo .22 on Tradme only because it was the only .22 on TradeMe at the time that wasn't too expensive

What part of the country are you from?


Lifestyle sentence block gave me a good laugh I must admit. I've been lopping trees, doing hedges, lawns, weeding and garden edges all day today. I'm wrecked.

A Gamo was the first rifle I thought about getting. A Magnum IGT Mac1. But a friend has just offered me a Benjamin Trail NP. I should be able to get it at a fairly good price...but I'm not sure if it's a suitable pest rifle.

I was also eyeing an HW50 in the for sale section of this site.




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My Gamo is a .22 Wildcat whisper IGT that runs at around 15 FPE - so not a Magnum gun but it has dealt to the pests around here.  I have since bought a Hatsan Carnivore .30 that is an absolute beast. Very powerful and accurate for a break-barrel gun and a lot of fun to shoot - but my Gamo is much more practical for pest control.  So far I've restricted myself to a max of around 30 meters - I know the gun is capable of much more but at this stage I'm not. 

Don't know anything about the Benjamin Trail but it seems to have some good reviews and is running at about the same power as my Gamo so should be up to the task.  A UK spec sub 12FPE air rifle is capable of a clean kill on a rabbit at 80 m - the key is being able to hit it in the right place at that range.
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I had a Benjamin Trail for a sort period (along with with several others budget models) but it was hopelessly inaccurate.  

Eventually (I'm a slow learner) I realised that the level of accuracy can be plotted on a simple graph with Dollars Spent along the X axis at the bottom and Gun Accuracy on the Y axis.
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