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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2561 |
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First this will be asking about gamo and Hatson multi break air rifles.
So if your a going to say gamo are crap shyt build and quality. Go away this thread isn't for you. I own a hw97, had a tx, had a sigasp20, this conversation doesn't need your negativity. Despite all the negative stuff around gamo there are are still passable models with good accuracy. Plenty people on web shooting good close range groups. my questions to multi shot springer users. What gun do you recommend and why? What is the best trigger system Is it gas ram or spring What plastic is in the shooting system Is the reloader well made? Does it damage pellets? Have you done any work to it and how much did it improve? If its a magnum have you tried slugs through it. What is the maximum distance you could hold 1 inch group and a two inch group at fully rested. What technique has worked best for accuracy of hold. My gamo roadstar didn't like the artillery at all and took a while to find out as all you ever hear is you need artillery hold to be accurate. Id also be interested in hearing any opion on the hastan multishot if youve shot one, and anyone who has shot both brands what you find best. I was thinking of getting the aa ultimate springer but have decided to give a multishot another go. Having a great rifle isn't the be all and end for a hunting rifle for me Speed of reload sux, i can walk 30m while reloading and that sux. I can watch critters stop and buy time got pellet reloaded they are on move again. Weight like tx and 97 is horrific for extended night shoots when walking the farm. These flash scopes ive had with ao and huge zoom arnt any great advantage unless your holed up or taking super long range shots. For busting bunnies,possums, birds within the range of a air gun its serious over kill in my view I'm more than happy with holdover and find it way quicker. So any scope recommendations would be appreciated..illuminated reticle and mildots would be nice. 4x or 6x, set focal no zoom is ideal. So fire away keen to learn take tips and advice about tricks and trades,model pros,cons To all you gamo shooters out there who don't say much cause this forum can be at times full of brand snobs who blanket rubbish a make in genral, or feel the need to add thier view in a comment just to rubbish someones gun. It takes more skill to learn and shoot a lower quality gun like a gamo, accurately than a gun that is made to higher quality. You could shoot my hw fine, id have to get use to the gamo. Edited by kruzaroad - 13 Oct 2025 at 11:23am |
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J-S ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Location: Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 482 |
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hmmm.. often the slating isnt snobbery (sure it sometimes is), but can be based on experience - ive seen club members never return as they couldnt get the rifle to perform so thats actually interest in the sport actively lost. But wont go into that here. In my view there are better multishot systems than the gamo one. I think the crosman magfire system may be better than the gamo based on how it presents to the barrel - its more sturdy. The multishot carrier etc on the gamo is prone to failure if there is a little wear (which its plastic so there will be some wear and tear). For me, on a break barrel dont buy one that has a plastic breech block - plastic does stretch, and even if it doesnt, it goes brittle over the years. Gas ram is usually smoother to shoot, and the spring versions are generally twangy without further tuning work. Id give Youngs airguns a call, he gets them all to fix so can steer you in a direction to whats most reliable
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Air Arms TX200('s) Theoben Sirocco HW77 FWB 300s Webley Patriot One or two others... Current projects: Too many.. |
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KiwiTR6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 04 Nov 2022 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 377 |
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I've owned four Gamos now and still own an early magnum. It is is a beautifully made gun, equal to the top end consumer guns available currently. I bought it from GC as one of a pair of faulty units they regularly sell for $1 reserve on Trademe. The other three were rubbish and the plastic breach they use these days is just very poor engineering - it's never going to produce a consistent lock of the barrel. I made the following point not so long ago. Poorly made guns such as the Gamo, Stoeger and others (although the Gamo is the predominant brand on most retailers shelves - as an ex retailer I assume this is because of higher margins from the importer) is bad for our sport as Jono says. I don't have any numbers, but personally I was about to throw away any involvement with airguns after my first Gamo and it was only through a weird circumstance that I got into it as deeply as I have after purchasing a second one that was equally as bad. After having bought and sold many poor performing air rifles over the last two years or so, I'm now a advocate for the higher end brands. That said they can have their faults, especially with QC as you will find out in my next post about my new HW98. Sorry about the rant Kruza, but despite what you say this brand does not help our sport grow and the next time I go into a H&F or GC store I will be telling the staff that if they encouraged customers into a better product initially, they would be more likely to have a customer for life. The crap guns that go into the closet when the owner gives up in frustration eventually end up back on the market only to do exactly the same damage again (potentially) to its next owner. Edited by KiwiTR6 - 13 Oct 2025 at 5:39pm |
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FX Dreamline .22 Diana Outlaw .22 AA S410 .22 HW98 .177 HW30 .177 Diana 340 E-Tec .177 FWB Sport 124 .177 Gamo 900 .22 Baikal IJ-22 .177 Crosman 2240 Custom .22 Brocock GP .22 |
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mercs ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Apr 2020 Location: Stratford Status: Offline Posts: 323 |
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My reviews are already available.
I have had eight Gamos, these three have some merit: 2012 .22 CFX under lever which is a cracker, converted to gas ram and trigger has been refined. (14ft/lb) 2019 .25 Shadow gas ram break barrel, mid-power so CAT2 trigger is reasonable. (15ft/lb) 2019 .22 Black Knight gas ram, unusually reliable and CAT2 trigger is better than others. (20 ft/lb) When they were $350 - $500 they were a fun purchase well below the cost of a Weihrauch or Diana. Many Gamo models are now close to or over $1000 and there are better brands in that price range. Quite simply they should be 1/2 the retail price and post Christmas you pick up the disappointments. Even at 1/2 price they need to improve the quality of internals and further improve the trigger assembly. Edited by mercs - 13 Oct 2025 at 3:34pm |
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Pauly5 ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1643 |
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My second airgun was a Gamo whisper with a gas ram. It ate scopes until I got a half decent nikko on it. But I did enjoy it until I sold it to buy my first HW97k.
I put so many pellets through it and my muscle memory got so tuned in to it. I could get 10 mm groups at 20 m with, but I didn't know about groups then, but would pick out flies and letters on cans. The trigger wasn't too bad. Never had experience with multishot springers apart from sighting in one for someone. Seemed to work well, but felt you had to be deliberate and measured with the cocking action, as it felt weakly engineered and with plastic present I would have been weary of it over time. My feeling is that they are over powered for how they are built, but that's what people want, light and powerful. The Cometa Fenix is a gun that always gets a mention, and one I would try. Re scopes, if you do get a powerful springer you will be limited to scopes that can handle the recoil. I always used Nikkos on my springers, they seemed to go ok apart from on that first Gamo I had. So if it was me, i'd probably be looking for an older springer with "patina" in the right places showing it was used as a hunting gun, which hopefully means it was acurate. |
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Pauly5 ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1643 |
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I saw this listing you may be interested in: Air rifle https://www.trademe.co.nz/5572354972
not too much money to give it a try.
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2561 |
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Cheers js ill have a look at crosman. I wasnt aware they made a multishot.
Tr6 myy 1322 is probley a worse build than most gamos. Still love it. While your at it have a bleat about all the useless pellets too.😁 Cheers mercs I'll look at two of those. The barrel fixed barrel is out. I agree with price verses quality, it will be a second hand rifle. I think pauly that is the crux of it. You learn your rifle. Im still not impressed with the gamo i had but there was potential there as a short range gun. The magnums maybe over powered but ill probley get a spring kit for what ever i get and adjust then. I was pretty disappointed With the spring set up in the hw97. Its crap compared to the tbt kit i got. No slip washer, no bottom nylon spring guide. Ive seen gamo diagrams that include these parts on models. |
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-Ec ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2025 Location: Matamau Status: Online Posts: 20 |
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Not sure if you have seen this - it's a review of 4 gamo break barrel air rifles, including one with an auto loader In-Depth Review of 4 Mid-Range Gamo Air Rifles | Features, Shooting Test & Comparison
As you may recall, I have a .22 Gamo Wildcat whisper which is at the cheaper end of their range. I picked this up 2nd hand on TradeMe with the intention of tryinh to deal with the local possum population that is helping themselves to my chicken food, veg garden and roses. Initially I struggled to get consistent accuracy - partly due to me learning how to shoot a "springer" and partly dur to the rubbish Gamo pellets that came with the gun. Now have some better pellets and seems to be much better - just need some decent weather so I can set up some targets at multiple ranges and test more fully. FWIW my son-in-law has a .177 gamo Maxxim (daughter bought it a a present after a possum snapped one of her standard roses) and it seems reasonably accurate at close ranges at least. Haven't really tested it but it has dealt to three possums - all within 15 meters. As for scopes - both gamos came with gamo 4x32 air rifle scopes. These seem reasonable at close range but when shooting at paper targets with mine I find the 4x magnification a struggle at more than about 30 meters. I have since bought a CV Life 3-9x40. Bought it online direct from the manufacturer - cost around $120 including delivery. So far quite impressed with this much brighter and clearer than the gamos. Tend to use around 5x magnification at night with torch mounted on top for possums and 7-8 during the day. Only at targets during the day so far though. There are a number of quite positive reviews of CV Life scopes on YouTube. I also recently bought a CHEAP digital scope with IR night vision. It's a Megaorei NK008-16-850 and so far I'm happy with it for the $130 it cost me. Still not sure if I will mount it on one of my rifles of just use it as a night vision monocular. I have used it for this a few times so far and am quite pleased with it. Again, there are a few reviews on YouTube for this scope. Edited by -Ec - 17 hours 13 minutes ago at 6:47pm |
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2561 |
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I'll check that review out -Ec. cheers.
Is the night vision rated for springers? If not don't put it on unless your ok with it dying rather quick. As for using it for spotting, its a real pain in the arse walking around with a night vision scope, spotting, getting the range then having to put it down and change to gun with scope and light half the the night. There's one other thing to be aware of too. You will be light blinded by the night vision, when going from nv to standard scope. Use your other eye for nv. Ive never been a fan of gamo pellets. But even then things like the redfire pellet worked well in the gamo,tx,and sig didn't make the final cut but always in the top 5. Its just like their guns in my view. They put out some usable guns. But probley never make anything top notch. Cheers for scope info too. Ill have a look as im not familiar with brand. Cheers for the input. Got new things to check out now sweet 👍 |
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2561 |
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Well I'm gob smacked.
Went looked up that scope, and found a review that put it through its paces and im pretty shocked at what i saw for a 30 dollar scooe in the states 1 year ago. Check it out! https://youtu.be/Mf4-WhxzXQE?si=LzEIAtqFDUghaoT0 Bit dubious of the the gamo video. Couldn't make out the groups. Guns were new out of the box and he didn't mention if leaded the barrel first. Couldn't really see the groups on small ph with no glasses, but ive tried the gamo pellet he was using and it was a sh*t pellet. So all over the place for weight and size having a couple i refused to put in barrel as so tight. He also liked the triggers and I'm pretty sure the fusion has the same base model gamo trigger not the cat or other one, sat? Those base triggers aren't great and need polishing before Id think they were usable. Thats why I prefure things like Mercs reviews. You know he's an active shooter, has better quality than gamo guns , target shoots, rabbit shoots. You can ask stuff in the thread. Then go looking around web with a better idea. Works for me anyway. Edited by kruzaroad - 5 hours 10 minutes ago at 6:50am |
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