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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2554 |
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So it turns out i have 4 pellets that shoot well out of hw97.
H&n field target Exact 16gain Aa deablo field Jbs jumbo heavy. All four are suitable for hunting. I can zero on one and then use dial to to zero the other pellets. So essentially i can run a pull though through fire half a dozen shots before hunting and be zeroed for that pellet. Yet common air gun lore is stick to one pellet when you find the most accurate. I've found this absolutely wrong and see it as a target shooting practice that has broached over into general air gun law. You can cast more than one vote but have to do it one at a time Edited by kruzaroad - 15 hours 26 minutes ago at 9:34am |
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J-S ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Location: Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 482 |
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generally id say test as many as you can in each gun and find the one that shoots the smallest groups. Stick to that one unless you come across a pellet that you haven't tried that shoots better groups... then stick to that one.. I shoot targets, so smallest group is the highest score. I dont want variances or to dial between different pellets - only dialing is a good group shot when i get a new tin / batch to check zero is still the same If i was a hunter, id still want the same, but tested at varying ranges to find the one that's the most consistent at all ranges...
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2554 |
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Fair enough too.
The accuracy of target shooting it makes sense. For accuracy in hunting it sounds sensible, something I've always done. But as sit here in the wind a 18gr is going to do better than 14.66gr apparently for drift. If an 18gr is comparable to the 14gr for accuracy, wouldn't the 18gr then be a more accurate choice for wind bucking. If that is the case why wouldn't you change for target shooting depending on conditions. Mind you i guess there are pellet and weight restrictions on target shooting? Thanks for replying to survey appreciated 👍 |
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Myson ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Location: Feilding Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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I'd say: Keep it simple !
![]() Once you've found the projectile that consistently gives you the tightest groups (and therefore best accuracy) in your particular barrel over all distances, use it! Again and again and again...... for targets, hunting, everything.... If you find another type that improves your best groups, then change and use that one, again and again and again... Ad Infinitum... "Accuracy" is the key factor for airgunning! For hunting. For targets. Etc... If you have more than one type of projectile that are equally accurate in your barrel (quite rare), then choose the one that best suits your favourite style of shooting - eg: hunting or targeting or plinking, etc..... and use that again and again and again....
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2554 |
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Cheers, i don't find it all that rare myself. Every gun ive had has had at least two pellets it shoots well with. This has 4!
They all hold good groups over the distance shot. (Not hole on hole target shooting accuracy, kill zone accurate.) But then again ive thrown a lot of tins away now that dont make grade in any rifle ive had. Cheers Myson. Good to have your view on board. I'll be interested to see what way it leans at the end. |
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Myson ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Location: Feilding Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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Try this Kruza:
Calculate your average group size for each of the 4 candidate pellet over distances 20yds, 40yds, 60yds, 80yds and 100yds (say). For example, shoot 7-pellet groups at each of the 5 distances for each of your 4 candidates. Calculate each pellet type's average group size - eg: Candidate Pellet 1: (10mm (@20yds) + 15mm (@40yds) +25mm (@60yds) +40mm (@80yds) +60mm (@100yds)) divided by 5 = 30mm average group size. I bet you'll find one of the four candidate pellets will come out on top with the lowest (smallest) average group size. Then get to know that one (best) pellet's characteristics at different distances in different winds. Let us know if that works?! ![]() I used this technique to determine the best pellets for all my rifles and it seems to work well, especially if you like longer range shooting (as I do). It'll be interesting to see how your 4 candidates perform in this little trial... my HW97KT .177 ended up liking the AA Field 8.4gr best (out of two candidates). |
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Air Arms S510 US .22 Air Arms S410 .22 Weihrauch HW97KT .177 Weihrauch HW95 .177 |
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2554 |
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Been there done that.
My limit is one inch group for hunting at distance. Can't do that? Your a short distance rifle. Thats inch if i place the crosshairs central to vitals in body. Allows me a degree of movement of pellet and still hit a lethal shot at distance. The 14.66 shoot a bit tighter in that one inch circle but of course does lose more fpe. Heavy, hit within the zone with more fpe. Supposedly better wind bucking ability. So am i better off with a 14.66gr when a 18gr do the job just as well? But wait! 14.66gr is way better for birds at distance flatter and faster, less fpe. So now what? I use an inferior pellet because the heavy works better on rabbits, possums etc due to fpe, and hope its accurate enough? The amount of kill zone on a hare/rabbit possum is more than the width of a startling or sparrow strait on. Or switch to a pellet that the rifle shoots with that tad more accuracy but doesn't carry the fpe which most birds dont need. Why only use one pellet? You dont wear the same shoes for everything you change to what suits the environment best. I can see the practical advantage for target shooting. Im not so sure its of any advantage to hunting being trapped to one pellet if you and your rifle can actually use different pellets/ slug effectively. But thats just me and im by no means the experienced shooter on site. And think the general consensus will be stick to one pellet. But then again i supect that the stick to one pellet, is because ppl dont change pellets because "once you found the one that shoots most accurate stick to it" is the air gun mantra. Why? |
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Pauly5 ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1640 |
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I went through the whole having a couple of different pellets and having drop charts, but then I found my brain just went bllarrrgh!
So I just stuck to one pellet, but had a high powered gun and a low powered gun rather than different pellets for one gun. low powered for pigeon work around buildings and high powered for rabbits.
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kruzaroad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2554 |
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That would be completely different set of numbers with two guns. The difference i find with the same rifle, is your using the same same firing system and i find that makes the relationship of pellet drop much more relatable than a seperate gun with differnt power all together and different scope.
I can understand the figures being a bit annoying but reality is most of us shoot more than one rifle and rember where the guns are shooting. Though i think a couple of you probly have to many air guns to rember them all, i bet your favorite couple of rifles you can pick up and go shooting with knowing where they hit. Cheers pauly that is actually the first answer that i have heard that steps away from find a pellet and stick with it, because its accurate. Also a totally legit reason and totally unarguable because its personal reason. Cheers paul great to get your input appresiated |
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