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Thanks Grey Kiwi - some great shooting there!

But unless I misunderstand, I was actually interested in targets showing the difference between out of the tin and treated pellets and also between the premium pellets and similar from JSB and H&N.

I could be interested in getting rid of flyers at modest cost of better pellets and maybe treating some too.

Am I right in thinking the .22LR is as easy - or difficult - to shoot straight as decent PCP air rifles so target shooters are considering PCP when they would not consider quality spring powered air rifles?   

To be honest, I doubt I have the time to spend making the effort to learn/train myself to shoot my springers better and this is my main reason for going to PCP - but bolt action, large capacity magazines and not getting my heart rate up changing my posture and cocking high power springers for each shot are also good reasons to prefer PCP...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grey Kiwi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 7:43pm
Yes, I knew what you meant but I haven't bothered to keep any treated pellets/untreated pellets cards.
I just knew that I could see a wee improvement.
Not enough to be of use to a hunter, etc but would make a difference to a target shooter.
When I sold the CZ457 I went to PCP as that was similar to using a rimfire. Aim, fire, reload without breaking the entire body position.
A springer needs a lot of changes to your position, and then you have to get yourself aligned all over again for the next shot and you only have 11 minutes for the sighters and the 10 scoring shots.
Or...we also shoot the double targets where you have 2 targets side by side and no sighters allowed for the 2nd target. You get 22 minutes for that combo.
I think a springer would not like being fired from a front rest either. Sure to be some bounce happening there.
I use an AR250 front rest but some folks just use a modified scissor car jack!
No magazines allowed for rimfire or air. Single load only.
I think the rimfire .22 is easier but good ammo is spendy (although my CZ liked Tac22...about $13 per 50 round box). Rimfire has a shorter 'barrel time' and a shorter 'flight time'. The PCP air rifle pellet has a longer barrel time, and flight time and I 'think' that as I'm surrounded by rimfire shooters at the range that their shots push my tiny wee pellets off target a tad too (disturbed air currents). I wait until I hear the 'bang' from each side of me before committing to my shot (or get it done nice and quick before they shoot).
Just weighing the pellets (and the rimfire ammo too) knocks out a few fliers.
I use a Hornady beam scale mainly although I have a digital scale too. Keep the pellets that are in spec in 1 container, with separate container for heavy (overweight) and another for light (underweight) pellets.


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Thanks! That's really interesting - I'm not surprised a .22 bullet even subsonic could disturb the air enough to slightly deflect a wee .177 pellet.  I recently watched a video where some projectile made a quite aide visible air disturbance and I was very surprised just how wide the air was disturbed.

Maybe no baked beans for breakfast when going to the shooting range would stop a few flyers as well?? :-)

You serious target shooters are seriously accurate. And yes, my first high power HW80 springer was putting slugs all over the target until I learnt the artillery hold or similar "non-hold" and suddenly I had the most accurate air rifle I have ever had.
And yes, moving to a position to do it and cocking the high power springers gives me a clear heart rate increase and it's very obvious through the scope.

However while I'll keep the HW, I've gone PCP mainly as I am not good enough to hunt with a springer - and don't think I have the time to get good... a bit of a cop out for sure. :-)

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I've been watching 'The Red Stag Timber Hunters Club', and in slo-mo you can see the game animal feeding quietly then you notice the long grass in front of it start to move (a lot) as a wave of air hits it.
Then you see the bullet strike a fraction of a second later.
That bullet (300 Win Mag I'm told) has pushed a large wave of air ahead of it as it flies towards the target.
Yes, there is air disturbance going on, and our benches are only about 1m apart.
It will take quite a few targets to build up a baseline of washed/unwashed pellets so will keep on and see what happens. The lube I use is a dry PTFE spray (Supercheap Auto), and is only used to seal the washed pellet surface to stop lead oxide forming on it.
They do look nice and shiny! Any lubricating qualities are a bonus, but not why I use the spray.
I do now use a Carnauba wax/Beeswax paste furniture polish on a patch once my barrel is cleaned.
It's said to fill the microscopic pores in the barrel to make it smoother. The jury is still out on this as only had one shoot with it. I know the UK and USA guys use Carnauba wax flakes dissolved in Mineral Turpentine to 'line' their barrels with. Apparently gives a hard smooth finish to the bore to help the pellet slide through better.
So I have also bought some Carnauba wax flakes to test one day. It's worth a go!


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