Silencers - Event Date: 12 Oct 2013

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Sorry for replying a bit behind the 8 ball here,, been away doing other things.. 
Silencers (or sound moderators) can make a difference on air rifles/pistols and on a few of mine that I've bothered to fit them on,, they certainly DO. Whether or not they are worth the effort is another kettle of fish though... Let me give you a few postivies and negatives in my case...

The single Positive...
1. "DEFINITELY" quieter on "ANY" airgun I have mounted one on - includes springers, pump up and PCP types. However,, each one of us has a different interpretation of the word "quiet" so make sure you clear your head when thinking about what "you" yourself mean by that word...

 Negatives...
1. You have to be a bit careful of the extra length, not to bump them when handling them etc
2. They require correct fitting, if not mounted on an existing thread that came from the manufacturer
3. The cost
4. The most annoying - ACCURACY (see below)...

I fitted one on a pump up - Webley Rebel .177 pump up job. Not really a serious type of air rifle but can be extremely entertaining to have fun with, until I fitted a moderator,, then the bit of accuracy went out the door and down the road. First I thought it was just the air buffetting that caused the pellets to fly off at all angles giving me a shotgun pattern on a paper target. Then after a good handful of shots accompanied by some pretty powerful cursing words (4, 5 and even 6 lettered ones) I began to notice a distinct "can" type sound like an alloy pinging noise with each shot. I fired a few shots into some water and took the moderator off. The pellets all had a shiny spot on one small part of the head rim edge and tail right behind it in the same spot. The moderator had slivery deposit markings on the exit hole. I took a close look at the moderator back on the rifle and it s not concentric with the bore - miles out. I went into a gunshop a few days later and bought a silencer made to fit a 25 calibre pill and that fixed it. Still just as quiet too...

I can live with or without them...

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patcheye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Papakura Status: Offline Posts: 31	Post Options Post Reply Quote patcheye Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Calendar Event: Silencers Posted: 23 Nov 2013 at 12:33pm
	Sorry for replying a bit behind the 8 ball here,, been away doing other things.. Silencers (or sound moderators) can make a difference on air rifles/pistols and on a few of mine that I've bothered to fit them on,, they certainly DO. Whether or not they are worth the effort is another kettle of fish though... Let me give you a few postivies and negatives in my case... The single Positive... 1. "DEFINITELY" quieter on "ANY" airgun I have mounted one on - includes springers, pump up and PCP types. However,, each one of us has a different interpretation of the word "quiet" so make sure you clear your head when thinking about what "you" yourself mean by that word... Negatives... 1. You have to be a bit careful of the extra length, not to bump them when handling them etc 2. They require correct fitting, if not mounted on an existing thread that came from the manufacturer 3. The cost 4. The most annoying - ACCURACY (see below)... I fitted one on a pump up - Webley Rebel .177 pump up job. Not really a serious type of air rifle but can be extremely entertaining to have fun with, until I fitted a moderator,, then the bit of accuracy went out the door and down the road. First I thought it was just the air buffetting that caused the pellets to fly off at all angles giving me a shotgun pattern on a paper target. Then after a good handful of shots accompanied by some pretty powerful cursing words (4, 5 and even 6 lettered ones) I began to notice a distinct "can" type sound like an alloy pinging noise with each shot. I fired a few shots into some water and took the moderator off. The pellets all had a shiny spot on one small part of the head rim edge and tail right behind it in the same spot. The moderator had slivery deposit markings on the exit hole. I took a close look at the moderator back on the rifle and it s not concentric with the bore - miles out. I went into a gunshop a few days later and bought a silencer made to fit a 25 calibre pill and that fixed it. Still just as quiet too... I can live with or without them...

(pink)MIST Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote (pink)MIST Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2013 at 10:21pm
	At the last NZAFTA round there was a guy shooting an AA TX200 with a silencer on, that was very quiet, made me have a second look to make sure I wasn't imagining things :)
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Raizer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: Gisborne Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote Raizer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 8:16pm
	They do actually work well on springers for downrange noise, but yeah up close most of the noise is the piston in the action.

sanandy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Tauranga Status: Offline Posts: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote sanandy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 8:47am
	On my AA s510 pcp the noise reduction was 80% to 90% with a simple screw on one. Cost was $90 and made the gun from a loudish bang to a wisper thud at full 35lb. It was well worth it as I dont want to upset me next door noughbours.
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nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1009	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 6:55pm
	I think they are a waste of time on spring guns. The spring and piston hitting when you fire the gun is what makes 90% of your noise. A silencer would make no difference. But PCP on the other hand is a hole different kettle of fish. But since i dont own a PCP i can not comment on them :)

Grantrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 Oct 2013 Location: Whangarei Status: Offline Posts: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grantrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 4:46pm
	Cut me some slack guys / ladies . . . I'm new to air rifles. ;-)) Can a silencer be fitted to any air rifle ? If so, are there any recommendations as to type or brand ? Assuming you can install them on an air rifle, what are the costs of buying one, and having it installed professionally ? Thanks for any advice. Grant.