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    Posted: 09 Nov 2013 at 2:14pm
Will be taking it out tonight for field testing :) Will keep you posted

Poorshot, When you get the bug, you are never happy and will keep trying to refining it :)
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And I am hesitating taking my gun to bits to check lube and assembly!
 
Very impressive I would say.
 
What kind of end result will make you happy or are you just going to keep refining it?
It's all fun and games and then somebody looses an eye.
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thats all good then, bloody reflections on photos :)
Think that'd definately fall into the "open" or "high power" class, would make for a flatter trajectpry as well
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Originally posted by (pink)MIST (pink)MIST wrote:

944 from a .22 is bloody good! The second photo at 365...... Not so much :)


thats a 9 not a 3 :)
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944 from a .22 is bloody good! The second photo at 365...... Not so much :)
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ha ha yea :)

Update. Finished testing and i managed to get just over 350psi into the ram using an old fridge compressor. Fitted it back into the gun and fired a few rounds to see how it did.

I used the same tin of .22 RWS super dome that i used before.

Here is the results through the chrony.  I got around 20fps difference between shots. I will have to look at the  main shaft seal in the ram because i think the friction is causing the changes in the FPS. But all in all i am happy with the way the ram is sealing. It will need some tweaking but it is well on the way.


 










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Nice work bud, if you'd had it together earlier it might have helped with your dragon problem :)
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Well i finished the new the end plug with the valve, sorry didnt take photos this time. Will do some pressure testing tomorrow and if all goes well i will put in the gun and see how it goes. But it is looking good so far.
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This is my test tube with the inner tube valve  :) I have just figured out a cool little one way valve that wont take up space inside the tube so the piston shouldnt hit it.

I will try to get it done tonight because i have just been told that we are going away for the long weekend..... and the dragon-inlaw ops... my mother in law will be joining us.

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Did some quick testing last night. machined up a test tube with a bike  inner tube valve  on one end to put some pressure in. I managed to get it to hold 90PSI with out any leaks. Then did a compression of the shaft and watched the pressure rise to 150 before the valve gave way. The seal its self it sweet i just need to work on the filling part. :)
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Looking interesting mate, watching this build :)
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Just finished the shaft - piston.














This is the finished item with the seal fitted.

I will do the tube and bearing over the next few days :)
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I decided to start my gas ram again from scratch. The parts that they supply just do not look like they would last very long so I have got my tube i will be using and i have just finished the seal for the piston. I decided to do the seal first because it is the hardest for me to machine. The plastic does not like fine cuts so i can machine the tube out or make the shaft step to suit the internal hole in the plastic.



After machining the OD of the plastic it is time to do the internal hole.




Next i need to machine a angle on the OD so the plastic will expand to seal against the iner tube wall when pressure is added to it.









You cant really see the angle because my light is not the best but it is good :)



Tonight i will machine up the piston and shaft.











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Well i just got in from the garage, My new part came in the post this morning so i have been in the garage installing it. I had to machine up a new bush for it before it fit. ( i dont think it was the exact model that i ordered)

Everything is good now :) very happy camper at the moment. The auto feed and thread cutting is back online :)

Grant, most rifles can be converted with the exception of the guns like Weihrauchs etc these can not be rammed due to the trigger latch coming out of the middle of the piston.

But if anyone has one they are willing to donate for science I do have some ideas :)
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Greetings.
This is my first post. I signed up last night.
Any way, I am new to air rifles / air guns, but have been reading a lot about them lately, and am keen to get my hands on a good reliable, QUIET, low recoil air rifle, that is easily capable of knocking over possums, and is accurate. I don't have a FAL, and can't be bothered with getting one again. I have a possum v fruit tree problem !! (sorry - not trying to side track this thread)

Anyway . . . I am interested in this topic regarding conversion from spring to gas ram. Can any / most spring guns be converted ? I'm not technical, but could most gun shops do a conversion if a ram was obtained ?

Good luck with your conversion. You obviously have pretty good technical skills to manage this process. I will be keen to read your results.

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