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nunga 
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 Topic: Hey EverybodyPosted: 19 Jun 2015 at 6:05pm |
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Welcome to the forum, i have a leapers 8-32x56 here with a 100mm side wheel if your interested .
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2nd place HP springer - WFTF World Championships 2014
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Davey
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 12:24pm |
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Other thoughts - large scopes raised up high changed the recoil pattern and take a bit of getting used to.
For a high scope you really need an adjustable buttpad so that you can keep the centre of recoil in line with your shoulder. If I could have fit a nice low bushnell 32x on my FWB124 I would have but unfortunately the break barrel makes it a no-go. Edited by Davey - 19 Jun 2015 at 12:24pm |
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Steyr LG110, Falcon T35, JSB 8.44
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Davey
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 12:17pm |
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I too came from rimfire ^_^ (f-class, BSA international Mk2)
Got a bit tired of shooting at the same bit of paper Windage isn't linear so the mildot thing allows you to do easy maths for wind at long ranges. Actually I have to admit neither of my FT scopes have mildots, I bracket my wind in "killzone widths". If I could buy a 35x Leupy with a mildot I would though :) Edited by Davey - 19 Jun 2015 at 12:18pm |
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RobD
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 12:14pm |
I've very little experience with mildot reticles but that's very handy to know! Cheers
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RobD
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 12:13pm |
Totally agree! I'd say my 20yrs with rimfire has given me a pretty good skill base and have made some adaptations already since starting with springers. Still much more to learn though and I can't wait to get out there with something decent to look through. My first week at airgun club I nailed the bull with 5 shots prone freehand with a borrowed hw97k. It was that moment I became hooked and am looking forward to the many challenging aspects of springers and FT.
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RobD
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 12:01pm |
gecado22 on nzairgun still has the T50, might just have a wee looksie
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 10:02am |
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By the way - you said you've done other shooting so you might be interested to know 1 standard mildot @ 34.3x mag ~ 1MOA. That's part of the reason I like to stick around mid 30's for my magnification. Makes estimating easy.
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Posted: 19 Jun 2015 at 9:52am |
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Hawke 32x is fine and versatile for starting out. I imagine in combination with the TX it'll be a while before the skill of the shooter moves past the kit, springers being notoriously difficult to shoot well consistently.
Whether it's worth it depends on how much they want for it. :) |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 4:42pm |
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Nothing wrong with Hawke, and yes, optisan arent easy to come by in NZ :)
Id rate the sidewinder 30 above the leapers, but alot of it will come down to budget and personal preference. Falcon T50 and T35 are good choices as well, theres a t50 for sake in Hamilton for $600 from memory...... |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 4:29pm |
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Have found some club members with spares they may sell. I'm going to check a few out thurs night at local club. What's the general opinion on Hawke sidewinder30 8-32? Just wonder whether I'll find it to be a "good starter" but soon drooling over something better or are they reasonably capable? I kinda just wanna put something on there that will get me going, more-so than what I currently have and then take the time to choose what I really want, what I really really want :) Am probably going to get something 8-32x so leapers, hawke, optisan... Optisan seems a good choice but hard to find. leapers and hawke are plentiful. Really appreciate all the feedback guys, I've been mulling this over for 2 weeks now so getting close to a decision. It was never this difficult for all my other rifle types!!
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 1:33pm |
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youre welcome to have a look through mine, I havent regretted putting it on my TX, nice glass .
prior to the viper I was using a leapers 8-32x, so no change in magnification capabilities, but a move to better quality glass was certainly notable. you could try a few things to help with white out, many different views on this. I used with good effect some thin upholstery carpet, the no backing stretchable kind, and glued that around the inside of the sunshade. This helped to stop light being reflected off the inside of the tube and onto the lens, worked for me. sometimes rather than thinking outside of the square, you just need to get rid of the square altogether :) The optisan has no issues with HP springers, but for what they cost I reckon theres other scopes that are well comparable, maybe better - if you look secondhand. dropping the tx's power will give you a very enjoyable Springer to shoot, and reduce recoil. Changing parts inside will drop noise and vibration (spring guide, top hat, etc, in delrin ratger than metal - talk to Nunga) Talk to people, ask around, you never know what bargains are lurking in the shadows :)
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 12:51pm |
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Some of the advice that came from Sunday at NHAGC was to avoid chinese glass and get something that won't "white out" with the sun in front. This time of year the sun is really low and the NHAGC range basically faces north so even a sunshade won't help bad glass.
I did have a look through a big nikko and found you really have to have your eye in just the right spot on full mag or else you lose picture. This is most likely same for all high power scopes I guess. |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 12:35pm |
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My TX is HP so will need something strong. I'm looking to get something decent that I won't want to upgrade in a hurry.
I've currently got a Gamo 4x32 on it...I've only just bought the rifle and borrowed the scope from a friend just to get shooting. Have so far done really well shooting paper target at the clubs considering current optics!
My pockets are not deep enough for a march pinkMIST. However, I was considering a Nikko Diamond and have seen that many are using these and Sightron SIII 10-50x60 at the WFT Champs. My concern is that my TX is pushing out 15.6fpe and the guys at the worlds are probably tuned to 12fpe?? Not sure if they will handle the recoil of mine. I do like the Optisan viper 8-32x60 too...your thoughts? |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 6:30am |
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So true, high mag becomes redundant if the glass is crap.
If you're at nhagc which is local to you, ask people to try theirs, see how the different types work for you. Also ask around at the club, as many people have spare gear from moving up that they're willing to sell on. |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 6:24am |
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Falcon, Leapers, Hawke, Bushnell, Burris all can be acceptable springer rated entry level scopes. You want a minimum of 20x power but 24+ is better. I prefer 35x as the sweet spot. Some like 50x or even 80x. Not worth it if you're just starting out.
Better to get a good entry level 24x scope (eg second-hand bushnell) than a rubbish 50x scope (eg ZOS). Edited by Davey - 18 Jun 2015 at 6:25am |
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