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    Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 8:41am
Nah i was fun bb.
Made a great scope holder for the night vision i had, after i gutted it
Barrel is still attached to a post on shooting range and i use the compressor and air gun to to muck around with reject pellets.
In fact it was more useful apart than as a gun. Got my money worth out of it.
Still waiting for someone to show any massive improvements in accuracy.
Anybody new to site look up the $100 challenge to see what we're on about and NEVER BUY YOUR KID A AIR CHIEF JUNIOR TARGET AIR RIFLE!
You will put them off shooting so fast you'll wonder what went wrong
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Hahahahahaha

I may regret that idea of that contest.....!
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Hi Ec,
I’m Hamilton guncity, looking at a second hand Hatsan 135 carnivore .30cal for sale for $599
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Least the stuff out of pigs scrotum shoots strait and at lest one will hit the target.
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You should read the $100 Gun city Air chief challenge some of us did. The goal was to see if we can turn a pigs ear into a silk purse.
I think we managed to get a pigs scrotum, but no purse. LOL
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I've watched many of the vlogs on the TbT channel plus a few others on YouTube.   I saw an old 177 spring gun in Palmy on TradeMe and decided that if I could get it cheaply I would do a complete strip down and re-build - just for the fun of it.  No real expectations but will take before during and after pictures as I work through the process.

I do have a very basic chrono so I will get before and after readings as well.  Should be an interesting journey.
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Airgun spring, cylinder, piston and seal lubrication is well covered on the web with differing techniques often to suit local conditions.
Generally the manufacturers get it wrong.

I will start a new Post where we can explore what works with products available in New Zealand.
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Yeah - my 22 will be my dedicated hunting/pest control gun.  Mostly for possums within 25 yards.    Need to practice on paper to work out hold-overs for longer ranges before trying for the magpies.

The 30 cal will mostly be for target shooting.  I believe there are at least another 10-12 Hatsan 30 cals in the area so there may be an opportunity of  a meet up sometime.   Once I am comfortable with the 30 cal it will be fine for limited pest control from a fixed location.

I have also just brought up an old rusty 177 on Trademe that I intend to restore.   Will need complete stripping cleaning and rebuilding.   While the stock looks OK from the pictures I will strip it back and refinish.   

Not expecting to much from this gun but it will be a fun project.  I also have some of the dry moly paste on TradeMe on the way - it cost over 3 times what the gun cost!

I may look a a quality 177 at some point, but for now I have enough to keep me busy 

 


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Pcp are definitely a superior rifle to springers, Jason.
Target shooting,hunting they pretty much have it.
Im sure many springers are now unused memories, since pcp became what it is
The only reason i sujested it as just possum gun is my is 1322 is set short range for birds.
I dont touch the scope from 10m to 25m as.it gets less..sharp or slight blur either end but works fine.
But it allows me to concentrate on just shooting. It still takes out other things.
But a dedicated gun is nice.

My thought anyway.
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[QUOTE=kruzaroad] The bug man on 1zb had someone ring with the same problem with possums and roses years ago. He recommended mixing up a leaf spray strength of fish fert and spraying it on.
22 or 177 the magpies and set the .30 for close range. Not very often your over 20m from a possum and thats if your standing out a bit.

Spot on Kruza. You've explained how to best sight in his capable rifle for exactly the owners needs. 

I know I've always been interested in owning exactly the lovely rifle he has bought (except in .22).

But heavy in both the .30 caliber projectile and the rifle weight that comes with a decent .30 rifle means it's kind of a special air rifle and has special needs that require understanding for the rifle to thrive - just like some of our lovely children. 

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I think the only reason i would talk firearms/i.e. PCPs on this forum is because the hardest thing for me with a decent springer like my Diana and HWs is they are by definition bloody heavy so they CAN shoot straight with all that springy recoil. 

PCPs suit me because I'm not a great shot and PCPs are light and as easy to shoot straight as a .22LR.
Springers require much more expertise/practice to shoot straight ESPECIALLY when shooting critters in the field without that stable rest that makes shooting targets child's play in comparison. I'm simply not good enough or strong enough to hold my quality scoped springers still for long enough to shoot them reliably from a standing position with no rest.

Sadly though, both getting and keeping a FAL for PCPs AND the cost of PCPs is high.

The other bonus of PCPs? Used quality springers have never been cheaper. 
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I wouldnt put your expensive night vision gear on the hatsan. you are just asking for trouble. unless they say it is rated for it. which i doubt very much it will be.
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Hi Ec,

Welcome to the forum.
Ja, air rifles are very addictive, welcome to the club 😂😂😂

As you might be gathering from other members, there are many better hunting options then the .30cal Hatsan.
The .30cal Hatsan is a beast. I don’t own one my self, but I can tell you they 1- eat scopes. 2- weigh a ton 3- have a limited selection of pellets in the .30cal.
To me the big Hatsan is a “nice to have” toy. If you want something to do pest control with, there are better options, but if you want a .30cal , just because u can, then ur on the right track 👍🏻

It’s worth mentioning that no break barrel, under lever or side lever air rifle (springer) requires a FAL, you can own as many as u want in any caliber u want, so I’m not sure why people u have been talking to are even mentioning a FAL…????

If you are new to springers and looking for more range time to get more accurate, research the “artillery hold”, it can make a big difference to shooting springers.

Another thing to know about air rifles, is every barrel is unique. What that means is every barrel will have its own preferences when it comes to pellets. Just because gun A likes these pellets, dosent mean the next one that came off the same production line will like the same pellets.
What that means for us as air gun owners is that u have to test lots of different makes, models and weights of pellets in every gun, until u find “the one” that that barrel likes. Don’t under estimate the huge difference that just changing pellets will have on the group size! For many of us that’s part of the fun of getting a new air rifle, spending some time with it on the range and finding out which pellets it likes.

There is a huge variety of .177 and .22 pellets to try, less in the .25s and very few in the .30cals.
There is also a lot to talk about when it comes to accuracy of pellet shapes and designs… 🤔
For get about “hunting pellets”, generally round head pellets are the most accurate.
Power is nothing with out accuracy, as an example a 30cal 30FPE hunting pellet from a hard to shoot rifle, shot through a possums shoulder, can’t compare to a light little .177cal 12FPE pellet from a sweet shooting little rifle, shot through a possums brain 😉

Which IR scope have u ordered? I’d be very interested to know how it holds up on ur springers, maybe do a review on it for us.

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Seems many believe the .25 is more accurate than the.30 or at least it is a little easier to shoot straight without knowing the rifle really well.

You are finding this out yourself. Kruza is an expert on holding over and under with springers and pump air rifles because he likes to learn the ballistics of his rifles and apply that learning to shoot animals rather than use a ballistic calculating scope.

Listen the these guys and learn to shoot the difficult rifle you have chosen and only then can you reliably shoot those possums rather than rely on lucky shots. Good on you for asking for and getting good advice.
Bad on you for ignoring the advice but hey, you've learnt they were right. 👍🙂 so now, my friend, it's time to follow that advice.
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The bug man on 1zb had someone ring with the same problem with possums and roses years ago. He recommended mixing up a leaf spray strength of fish fert and spraying it on.
22 or 177 the magpies and set the .30 for close range. Not very often your over 20m from a possum and thats if your standing out a bit.

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