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    Posted: 24 Aug 2025 at 9:37pm
177 vs 22….
Hummm, now you’re opening a can of worms 😂
If u ask 10 different people, you’ll get 10 different answers.
Basically they can both do the job, but as always shot placement is critical.
I’ve shot thousands of rabbits with both calibers using PCP’s, but I’ve also shot a bunch with springers in both calibers too.
For me it’s not a question of can the caliber do the job, it’s more a question of can the rifle and shooter combination get their pellet to the right place. If you can put the pellet in the right place, it will do its job regardless of caliber.
The rifles that have been talked about in this thread are all capable of excellent accuracy out to 30meters (and some beyond) and they could all do the job, in either caliber.
So it comes down to the shooter and what distance you can maintain accuracy out to.
The bottle top test is a great way to guage that distance.
At what ever distance you can hit 10 bottle caps with 10 shots, that’s the distance you should limit your shots too.

Having said that, there are pros and cons to each caliber, as has been mentioned by other members above.
177s shoot lighter (about 50% lighter) pellets, so usually have faster and flatter trajectory’s.
177 projectiles often go stright through rabbits and pigeons (ice picks).
22s shoot heavier and usually (but not always, depends on the rifle’s power output) slower pellets so usually (but not always) have more curved trajectories. That’s not a problem out to 20 or 25, but the further out you are shooting the more important correct distance judging and knowing your drops becomes.
22s heavier pellets can carry more energy (depending on the rifle’s power out put) and can therefor potentially hit harder.
But if your pellet is not in the right place, all the power in the world means nothing.
A 50BMG to the back foot isn’t going to kill a bunnie 😂 shot placement is critical 😉
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Wow just spotted an original BSA super sport made by BSA in the Uk… I always fancied one of those…


Nice, probably still very capable for what you are wanting to do. 
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Wow just spotted an original BSA super sport made by BSA in the Uk… I always fancied one of those…
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Originally posted by J-S J-S wrote:

Originally posted by FidosField FidosField wrote:

Rabbits and .22 vs .177
Now Im getting even more confused (easily done) as to brand...but what about calibre?  I alswyas thought .22 for Rabbits but .... what does everyone else think?


What sort of range are you shooting? 

.177 flies faster and flatter, somewhat easier to shoot at varying ranges - .22 has a larger arch so more holdover to account for. 
high power .177 will tend to drill holes through things at close range - arguably .22 will dump for energy into the target for more efficient kill..

Rabbits really arent too tough of an animal, unlike possum, so either caliber would be fine. .22 may be a safer bet as a good allrounder 


We have a lot of trees and bushes so even if by some miracle we (me and rabbit) were at furthest line of sight, points I’m gonna say 60m at most, with most around 20-30m….. sh*t if I open the back door quietly maybe 5 metres😂😂😂
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Originally posted by FidosField FidosField wrote:

Rabbits and .22 vs .177
Now Im getting even more confused (easily done) as to brand...but what about calibre?  I alswyas thought .22 for Rabbits but .... what does everyone else think?


What sort of range are you shooting? 

.177 flies faster and flatter, somewhat easier to shoot at varying ranges - .22 has a larger arch so more holdover to account for. 
high power .177 will tend to drill holes through things at close range - arguably .22 will dump for energy into the target for more efficient kill..

Rabbits really arent too tough of an animal, unlike possum, so either caliber would be fine. .22 may be a safer bet as a good allrounder 
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Hi From Stratford, I have a range of Gamo air rifles including multi-shots.
I have removed all the multi-shot loaders.
The magnums are over powered for the trigger capability.

Check out the forum reviews and hunting posts to get some ideas.

Try before you buy, happy to arrange a practice session with several different brands and models in Stratford or Eltham.

Welcome back to airguns they remain a very cost effective pest control option.


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Rabbits and .22 vs .177
Now Im getting even more confused (easily done) as to brand...but what about calibre?  I alswyas thought .22 for Rabbits but .... what does everyone else think?
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Originally posted by KiwiTR6 KiwiTR6 wrote:

Hi.  Stratford shooter here and a member of the Eltham Small Bore Rifle Club where I and others shoot air rifles twice a week.  Some of us own relatively expensive PCPs, but nearly all of us own at least one Weihrauch springer - and that's for good reason.

My 2 cents worth would be (and I think all of my shooting buddies will agree) is to forget about the Gamo no matter how much the salesperson raves about it - you'll probably be disappointed.  

For the same price as the one you mention you'll be able to purchase a new Weihrauch HW50 in .177 cal plus a Nikko Stirling scope, a combo that will give you a very high level of accuracy, lots of dead rabbits and years of service.

PLUS, you would be competitive if you wanted to join our little club (we have a member who travels down from NP) as the springer shooters are now getting very close to the PCPs - especially on our 25yd indoor range!

PM me if you'd like more info.

Thanks I see you sent a PM but for some reason I cant see the messages.... no option to read them when I click the link...
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Originally posted by FidosField FidosField wrote:

Originally posted by J-S J-S wrote:

Welcome!

Can ask here, or the general discussion area. But, youve already spolied yourself with Weihrauch theres a lot of guns out there thatll be a downgrade! 

Weihrauch and Air Arms are top of the heap - Weihrauch having most options vs Air Arms with their TX200.. It all comes down to budget really, and also if you have a license.. If you have FAL then PCP is a great option as they can be very quiet with good power and easier to shoot more accurately (not necessarily inherently more acurate, just easier to use) 

For rabbits an HW95 would be great, HW97 if you want to get into some target shooting as well, HW80 if you have a bit of a possum problem as well. 
Diana used to have some good offerings, theyve slowed down a bit, but if you can find a Diana 340 Ntech that'd be a good option. 

Cometa fusion is a good more budget friendly option - spanish made but a big step up from gamo etc, cold hammer forged barrels are accurate, the trigger is very adjustable and can be made excellent. My preference would be .177 with JSB exact heavy pellets - I had one before my TX200 and could group just as well. 

Budgeting below the fusion, id say keep saving... i may be a snob but if you like quality then better to buy once. 
But, a cheap crosman / benjamin will do the trick, but you need to master the trigger etc otherwise youll not get best accuracy. dont bother with the multi-shot springers - the mechanisms break. gamo is overpowered and use far too much plastic

Thanks yes I think I will miss the German engineering, but its purely for occasional pest control...our lawn is starting to look like a sieve!!!
Ive been having a good look at the Gamo Swarm Magnum Pro (Gen 3i) Air Rifle .22 but for what I want not sure I need to spend a grand??  Maybe I do LOL
But the reviews and videos Ive watched it certainly looks to perform on power and accuracy once you match the right pellets....
But its literally the first thing I have looked at really so still lots to look at



I would keep looking - ignore the multishot - you still cock the barrel so only skipping the motion of loading a pellet... not a lot of time saved. The mechanisms wear and then start failing. 

The cometa is the next best thing to the germans, and will beat the gamo in accuracy and power is still plenty. 

The one on trademe in the link looks a good buy, but have a look at reviews etc and also could be worth a phone call to youngs airguns in auckland to see what he has / recomends
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Hi.  Stratford shooter here and a member of the Eltham Small Bore Rifle Club where I and others shoot air rifles twice a week.  Some of us own relatively expensive PCPs, but nearly all of us own at least one Weihrauch springer - and that's for good reason.

My 2 cents worth would be (and I think all of my shooting buddies will agree) is to forget about the Gamo no matter how much the salesperson raves about it - you'll probably be disappointed.  

For the same price as the one you mention you'll be able to purchase a new Weihrauch HW50 in .177 cal plus a Nikko Stirling scope, a combo that will give you a very high level of accuracy, lots of dead rabbits and years of service.

PLUS, you would be competitive if you wanted to join our little club (we have a member who travels down from NP) as the springer shooters are now getting very close to the PCPs - especially on our 25yd indoor range!

PM me if you'd like more info.
Daystate Red Wolf .22
FX Dreamline .22
Diana Outlaw .22
AA S410 .22
HW98 .177
HW30 .177
Diana 340 E-Tec .177
FWB Sport 124 .177
Gamo 900 .22
Baikal IJ-22 .177
Crosman 2240 Custom .22
Brocock GP .22
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