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Quite possibly the sweat from hands has reacted with the finish.
I can be a bit of an acid old man lol.
The finish is faulty. It's forming over the finish not through it.
It starts where I break the barrel, but I noticed it on the metal rings around the barrel screws, had it this time. ( 3 days is the longest it's been unused)
Its got me a bit stumped. If it was a moisture thing, I'd be expecting the 2 crosman to react as well, they all live in the same place. Which brings me back to a sweat reaction as the crosman are both pump up, no real barrel contact with hands.
Not a issue had with tx200 in same case in same place.
I'm open to suggestions at this stage.
Probly have to do more research into the coating. I only have vague understanding of how it works from when I looked it up last time.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Myson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2023 at 7:44am
Wow Kruza!

That's bizarre - I've never seen such rust before! And it was oiled before putting away?!

My SIG is just stored standing up in a locked cupboard - never any sign of rust.

What caused this do you think?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kruzaroad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 10:35pm
Gad think we had enough of quarantines.
It could well be the sweat from hands, but that was wiped and oiled before going away.
The 1322 which sits in the same place, except with just a towel wrapped around it is sweet as. That thing use to surface rust like mad till it had been oiled a dozen plus times.
I've got a packet of moisture absorbing crystals in the sig hard case too.
Guess I'll just keep oiling it Hooe it stops.
Maybe I should write to sig, might be able to get a new barrel in .22. I wish.
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Thanks for that, takes the term "patina" a bit far, damn I wonder if there has been a chemical reaction involved.

Amazed it comes through after being oiled, that will need taking back to clean steel and and a full treatment or painting.

Rushed to gun safe to check and mine do not have that dreadful disease. Will consider quarantine as a precaution.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Billbobnz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2023 at 7:41pm
Are you serious...!! Wowzers looks like it's had a bath in sea water before being stored...!
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So here's the sig after 3 days in its padded hardcase not being used.
Doesn't say much for the anti corrosion on this particular gun.
Oh well off hunting, it's been cleaned and reoiled
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Poppy cock! If your at your technical limit, then it's time to start fine tuning.
( Though from a hunting aspect, those are both killer groups.)
A spring change to something that will lessens the kick and by default fpe.
Maybe a small tweek in your hold?
Its really so close hole on hole it would be a shame not to find a way tighten it.
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30 metres warm calm Taranaki evening.

Previously zeroed to this distance.
I had been pleased with JSB's so thought I would put them up against a pellet I use regularly.

By the numbers the JSB has an edge.

I think that I have reached my technical limit with this particular rifle.
The Sig has a good kick so not sure if I can manage it any better.

20mm O.D. Sig ASP20 .22 JSB Match Diablo Jumbo Express 0.93 grammes 14.35 grains 5.52mm


21mm O.D. Sig ASP20 .22 RWS Super Field 1.03 grammes 15.9 grains 5.51mm




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Weight will play part. There is a relationship between the extreme weight ranges and head size. I've found.
Flyers should cut right down. It also gives you time to check for head and skirt damage.
Skirt damage can be a big thing in some tins.
Actual roundness of the head is interesting too. I found a few pellets that measured differnt on one side to the other. The worst was 4.50mm one side and 4.46mm on the other. I imagine that would affect flight chararistics as well.
Skirt damage is a biggie with me I'm pretty hard on my judgement of it, it takes very little to lift the skirt to high for effective seal.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Myson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2023 at 11:28am
Thanks Kruza.

Interesting.... we'll see what headsize is best for my barrel.

The reason I'm thinking one headsize will be best is that I'm getting fliers in some of my current groups with the "4.50" tin and I reckon those fliers are most probably due to unsuitable headsizes in the tin?

I've weighed the pellets into three weight groups (Lite, Medium and Heavy) and I get fliers in all three weight groups so it's probably not a difference of weight - more like a difference in headsize that's causing the odd flier or two.

The good thing is that if I ignore the fliers, the groups are great with H&N Baracuda Match 4.50's. If I can find the right headsize (that does not produce fliers), I think I'm looking at 30mm 7-shot groups at 50yds consistently. Sweet!

Can't wait for my pellet headsize checker to arrive! Smile
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