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First play tonight with the little gun tonight.  Put it across the chrony first, lots of smoke but the speed came up to just over 500 fps using 8.44gr JSB Exact 4.52 pellets.  Then a batch of 10 shots at 6m with the standard sights with no adjustments.  Not too far off the target centre and quite a tight little group of 7 pellets.  I then stretched it out to 10m but with my glasses there was no way I could see through the sights so I pretty much had to guess where the centres was and the group reflects that.

I've since removed the front sight, it took a fair bit of effort with the hammer against the vice-grips to get it to move.  The crown doesn't look too bad at all, the crap on it in the picture I suspect is thread lock from the sight installation.  I was planning on cleaning it up in the lathe but it might not be worth the effort.

The next step  is to clean the barrel and fit my little 4x32 Tasco scope.  Hopefully my 10m groups will improve when I can actually see the target!







Edited by KiwiTR6 - 25 Aug 2023 at 8:56pm
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Now the owner of an Air Chief Junior, mine arrived in very good order.



Cleaned and lubricated before use, mechanism is smooth and easy to operate with repeatable fps.
The truth about the rifle will require a bench test which I will get onto but far from disappointed.
Trigger will definitely get some attention but I have owned worse.
Fitting a basic scope will also be interesting.

Air Chief.177 Junior
Pellet BrandRWS
Pellet typePro-Line
Average fps457
Grains8.2
grams0.53
foot pounds3.8
Joules5.16

Out of the box


Breech was clean and seal in good order but whether machine or hand finished workmanship is definitely poor.


Barrel looks ok but needed a good clean.


10 metres standing. Sights left as found. POA the bull with resulting 50mm OD group. 
Front sight obscured the bull.


Upgrade number 1, Red Dot sight installed


Repeated test with resulting 45mm group, looked as if I would improve to within 25mm but messed up last couple of shots, I had done better when sighting in so need to check a few things out.


Gamo 4x32 scope fitted


10 metres with Gamo scope gave a 35mm group using AirArms Diablo Field Heavy 10.3 grains
Technology and posh pellets do not make a big difference. I suppose it would shoot at a 50mm plinking target and deliver some backyard fun.





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Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

Woooooo that's incredible particularly with high quality pellets!

It's like the gun is coughing them out.

Pauly5 I'm wondering with your bent barrel is the steel not that very hard? I've got a carbon tube that will slip over which I will see if it stiffens up and helps with accuracy

The first pellets I tried were flat head target pellets, 7 grn. And with the power around 4.5 ft/lb I'm thinking the lighter pellets are probably best through these guns.

The barrel itself looked straight, it's like the bore hasn't been bored straight, as if the barrel was under stress, in a slight bend while it was being bored, then when pressure released the barrel goes straight, but bore has the curve in it.
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I'd say angled, the seal was angled. And it sat flush with face of breech.
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I have had time to disassemble yet as I'm tanning another deer cape ready to mount tomorrow. I'll have to check the face of where the breech seats against to make sure thats 90° or angled to match the breech.

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I thought I'd do a quick few things to no great finish to see if would react to a bit of tlc.(mostly I wanted to play with new dremel)
1 tidy up crown.
2 tapper the breach hole where pellet goes in.
3 polish bore with cutting compound.
4 play with sight to even up.
5 grind down trigger sear
6 cut trigger return spring as it has way more tension than it needs
7 Polish trigger sear face and on piston too.
8 Pop seals and reseat.
The breach seal is also tapered billbob, as is the face on mine. Seems to lock, and shoot ok so I'll be keen to see how straitening it goes.
Ran 20 shots through it then a did a five shot group.

Five shot group
10m, outside, no wind
Sitting in door of car with elbow on knee holding forend . No sand bag and table this time.
AA heavies 10.3gr
18mm vertical
24mm horizontal


As nothing has been done to any degree of finish, could be promising.
Trigger pull is a lot shorter and snapper now.
And not sighted in. Rear sight was to "I recon about there" then not adjusted. Searching for grouping before worry about bringing on target properly
But that's it for now have other guns want to play with tonight.


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Front sight will slide off with a little help with a hammer and vice grip.

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So I’ve had an interesting morning with the black mamba.

Cleaning first. Took a good few patches through that barrel before they started comming out clean(ish).

First one was properly black 😂😂😂
Man I love the smell of Hoppes no9! I’d wear it as aftershave if it didn’t sting so much!

Then tried to mount a scope. That’s when I noticed there is no recoil lug recess hole on top of the tube 🤔
The only mount I have is a gamo one piece which is quite low, but I was hoping the 3 Allen keys and the long clamping dovetail might keep the scope in place. Rear sight was in the way so I took that off. Put rings on and mounted the scope, and it looked damm good, but of course now the damm breech won’t open 😡. So back on went the rear sight. I decided to change my sight picture so I can see the bull at 10m, and “zeroed” as best I could accordingly.


Snugged up the stock screws, which were a little loose and started re-leading the barrel.
After 40 shots it was all over the place!!! 😳😳😳

Checked the stock screws and they were loose again😡
Tightened up all 3, then it would t cock??? 😡
Figured out the screw in front of the trigger guard can’t be snuggled up tight, won’t cock, needs to be about 1/8th turn backed off. Seemed to not move for the rest of the shooting session, but the two fore end screws did, after every shot 😡
Spent the next hour tightening the fore end stock screws after every 5 or 10 shots.
They seem to loosen and if left alone will settle then stay there, but I do think some lock tight is needed after all the stripping and tinkering is done.
My best group, after cleaning and releading, with slightly loose stock screws is slightly worse they yesterdays.
I need to get a scope on there!
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Just collected mine from Magnum Sports.  Probably a bit better than I was expecting for $100 but the barrel pivot bolt is peened over as I though it would be from what I'd seen on YT, so strip down will involve a little more effort. The trigger shape is god awful, but I think I can use the fixed sights for initial shots.  However I'll be swapping them out for a little Tasco scope I have lying around.





Edited by KiwiTR6 - 25 Aug 2023 at 2:13pm
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Billbob, how did u get the silencer off? Gentle persuasion with a hammer?
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