JSB Hades

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    My first comment would be, what was fpe at target.
 Muzzle energy is not equal to energy dumped into target down range, and I notice you've provided no distances.
 Heres a video that shows expansion fired into bucket of water at differnt fpe at muzzle energy.
 https://youtu.be/cAuflxfY7fE
I use jsb out of my 1322 on birds and the odd rabbit and possum. They "smack" harder than any other pellet I've used.
 On birds they have been devistating and drop them better than other pellets I've used. Rabbits have been at about 5fpe distance usually and have taken them down but my shot placement could have been better. Possum close range (very close due to low fpe of 1322) were very dead and penitration was fine. I have no complaints about impact performance of jsb. 
 I have not found hades accurate beyond  20/30m in my rifles. (20m is about 1322 shooting distance) 
 Rifle pellet choice for the tx200 .22
 was AA field deablo 16gr . After 50m heart/lung shots were out as the energy had dropped enough that it wouldn't pass through the shoulder bones if my shot was off causing a shattered leg/shoulder bone, but not penitration into vitals. Head shots could be taken further out.
 SIG asp20 .177 is AA heavy. That I use the same distances as tx for guide line. Seems to be working fine. 
 I find the 177 penitration is better than .22 but shot placement is crucial as they are less forgiving for being slightly off.
 I must admit I was bummed out the jsb hades didn't have better accuracy out of my rifles I like it as a small critter round. 
 I would have thought you would be using a slug in a pcp.

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kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2284	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2023 at 6:49am
	My first comment would be, what was fpe at target. Muzzle energy is not equal to energy dumped into target down range, and I notice you've provided no distances. Heres a video that shows expansion fired into bucket of water at differnt fpe at muzzle energy. https://youtu.be/cAuflxfY7fE I use jsb out of my 1322 on birds and the odd rabbit and possum. They "smack" harder than any other pellet I've used. On birds they have been devistating and drop them better than other pellets I've used. Rabbits have been at about 5fpe distance usually and have taken them down but my shot placement could have been better. Possum close range (very close due to low fpe of 1322) were very dead and penitration was fine. I have no complaints about impact performance of jsb. I have not found hades accurate beyond 20/30m in my rifles. (20m is about 1322 shooting distance) Rifle pellet choice for the tx200 .22 was AA field deablo 16gr . After 50m heart/lung shots were out as the energy had dropped enough that it wouldn't pass through the shoulder bones if my shot was off causing a shattered leg/shoulder bone, but not penitration into vitals. Head shots could be taken further out. SIG asp20 .177 is AA heavy. That I use the same distances as tx for guide line. Seems to be working fine. I find the 177 penitration is better than .22 but shot placement is crucial as they are less forgiving for being slightly off. I must admit I was bummed out the jsb hades didn't have better accuracy out of my rifles I like it as a small critter round. I would have thought you would be using a slug in a pcp.

RangerPete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Cambridge. Status: Offline Posts: 884	Post Options Post Reply Quote RangerPete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 2023 at 10:48pm
	Hi Folks, I’ve been using the JSB Hades for some rabbit control, and although they fly straight and group ok (for a hunting pellet), I’ve been a little disappointed in their terminal performance. I was hoping they would open up, flatten out and dump all their energy into the target, like a hollow point expanding bullet would, but in reality they just seem to flatten ever so slightly. I’ve been doing some rabbit control around horses, so have the pcp tuned down to 13.6fpe, shooting a 15,89gr .22cal Hades at about 620fps. I’ve recovered a few pellets and my findings have been as follows: Most head shots out to about 40m are through and through, I’ve only recovered one pellet from a rabbits head so far. It had expanded from 5.5mm to 6mm. On a shoulder shot, the pellet penetrated about 4cm, going through the scapula and ending up close to the spine. Fatal shot and the pellet again expanded from 5.5mm to about 6mm. One “petal” broke off. On another shoulder shot the pellet did not go through the scapula, didnt even penetrate 1cm and was just under the skin, but did break the leg. Not a fatal shot but did expand to about 6mm against the scapula. With the same pellet, out the same gun but on another power setting giving 930fps and about 31fpe, I shot a possum in the eye and the pellet was recovered down the neck just forward of the shoulder blades. Penetrated about 10cm. It expanded from 5.5mm to 6.5mm. See the attached pictures. Although they are doing the job, I was really hoping for better deformation and a harder “thump”, giving a better knock over. Maybe a pellet made of softer lead would expand better? Has anyone else had any experiences with the hades, or with another make and model which gave satisfying results in thumping bunnies?
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