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youre welcome to have a look through mine, I havent regretted putting it on my TX, nice glass .
prior to the viper I was using a leapers 8-32x, so no change in magnification capabilities, but a move to better quality glass was certainly notable.
you could try a few things to help with white out, many different views on this. I used with good effect some thin upholstery carpet, the no backing stretchable kind, and glued that around the inside of the sunshade. This helped to stop light being reflected off the inside of the tube and onto the lens, worked for me.
sometimes rather than thinking outside of the square, you just need to get rid of the square altogether :)

The optisan has no issues with HP springers, but for what they cost I reckon theres other scopes that are well comparable, maybe better - if you look secondhand.
 dropping the tx's power will give you a very enjoyable Springer to shoot, and reduce recoil. Changing parts inside will drop noise and vibration (spring guide, top hat, etc, in delrin ratger than metal - talk to Nunga)

Talk to people, ask around, you never know what bargains are lurking in the shadows :)
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Some of the advice that came from Sunday at NHAGC was to avoid chinese glass and get something that won't "white out" with the sun in front. This time of year the sun is really low and the NHAGC range basically faces north so even a sunshade won't help bad glass.

I did have a look through a big nikko and found you really have to have your eye in just the right spot on full mag or else you lose picture. This is most likely same for all high power scopes I guess.
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My TX is HP so will need something strong. I'm looking to get something decent that I won't want to upgrade in a hurry.

I've currently got a Gamo 4x32 on it...I've only just bought the rifle and borrowed the scope from a friend just to get shooting. Have so far done really well shooting paper target at the clubs considering current optics!

My pockets are not deep enough for a march pinkMIST. 
However, I was considering a Nikko Diamond and have seen that many are using these and Sightron SIII 10-50x60 at the WFT Champs. My concern is that my TX is pushing out 15.6fpe and the guys at the worlds are probably tuned to 12fpe??
Not sure if they will handle the recoil of mine.

I do like the Optisan viper 8-32x60 too...your thoughts?
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So true, high mag becomes redundant if the glass is crap.

If you're at nhagc which is local to you, ask people to try theirs, see how the different types work for you.

Also ask around at the club, as many people have spare gear from moving up that they're willing to sell on.
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Falcon, Leapers, Hawke, Bushnell, Burris all can be acceptable springer rated entry level scopes. You want a minimum of 20x power but 24+ is better. I prefer 35x as the sweet spot. Some like 50x or even 80x. Not worth it if you're just starting out.

Better to get a good entry level 24x scope (eg second-hand bushnell) than a rubbish 50x scope (eg ZOS).

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Guess it all really hinges on how far you want to go budget wise , hindsight being 20/20, I'd go buy the best, save all the spending upgrading ......
Still , gotta have deep pockets to do that :) March 80x....... Mmmmm
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Shooter1 on the other forum had a couple of Leapers scopes that are a good start for FT. Not sure if he's on this one.
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What scope do you have at present? And is the Tx 12fpe or HP?
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Originally posted by Pauly5 Pauly5 wrote:

I see Pink has pm'd you. There you go.

Yeah that was about cushions.
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I see Pink has pm'd you. There you go.
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