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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 12:05pm | 
 
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   I do have a larger, brighter torch and scope top mount, but that is on the son-in-law's 177.   The neighbor did say there are a lot of possums around at the moment and he is thinking or running a trap line in the trees along the stream on his property as he has seen quite a few walking across the paddocks across from there when feeding out in the evenings. 
   
  I do have a night vison scope on order which will hopefully make life more difficult for the possums who are the main pest around home.  Don't see too may hares or rabbits.  The neighbor and his sons keep the hare numbers down with a 17 hmr.   See quite a few rabbits in the evenings further along the road but none down our end.  Lots of turkeys further along the road too but they seldom come down our end.  Did have a couple hanging around the chook run a while back but haven't seen any since I took out the tom with the 22 a couple of weeks ago. Mostly want to knock the possums over to give the garden a chance.  Last year had one snap one of the daughters standard roses - hence her buying the 177 for the son-in-law for xmas LOL. Do need to spend some time trying to knock over a few magpies - they are cunning little buggers but there are a few too many around here at present. Regards -Ec 
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 11:21am | 
 
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    I went for a picatiny scope mounted rail and a quick release mount. 
   
  Even then if i put it on the wrong slot poi changes. Hopefully the new shooting position will help. Maybe you should put out grain in a good shooting position too. Id guess that they are hard pressed for food and once trees start the spring budding they will be less likely to return after you shoot a couple, but then again free food isnt to be sneezed at ny a possum.  | 
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 11:03am | 
 
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   Some nights there are at least 4 that come down for a feed.   One at 8pm another around 10:30pm  and a mother an her not  so little baby at around 2:30am - thought the chooks were going through their food rather quickly!
 
   
  ![]() My torch is very small, but reasonably bright and mounted on my scope all the time.  Can't recall if it was there when I last zeroed in, but it would have been on the scope when I got the hare. ![]()  | 
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 9:49am | 
 
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    Yeah do that 👍 
   
  I use torch on scope and as soon as the torch goes on, its weight changes poi. You might want to make or buy a shooting stick. Give you a more stable shot. That cheeky bugger needs a pellet and diced into cubes and feed back to the chickens. Thievery outright lol  | 
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 9:32am | 
 
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    Hadn't thought of that! - will do some testing once this horrendous wind stops.   The possums are coming to feed from the chook feeder - see picture from my trail cam.   All the shots I've missed were unsupported standing shots and I know I rushed them.  Yesterday afternoon I relocated the feeder so that I can now sit against the fence and use the chook run fence for support so should have a much more stable shot.   The hare was a supported standing shot and as he was unaware I was there I had plenty of time to take the shot. ![]()  | 
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 9:09am | 
 
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    Have you checked for poi movement with torch on? 
   
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 7:49am | 
 
   
   
 Yeah but mere mortals like me might struggle to achieve your kill rate. Refer wee note at the bottom of your posts.  
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     Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 7:48am | 
 
   
   
 Yeah but refer the wee note at the bottom of your posts. Mere mortals like me might struggle to achieve your "no problems".  
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     Posted: 17 Sep 2025 at 12:42am | 
 
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   I've decided to go with the 30 cal Hatsan - more for fun than anything else.   The  22 Gamo is fine for the pest control I need to do around here.  Dropped a hare from about 25 yards with clean head shot yesterday afternoon,  then missed a possum from around 15 yards last night and then again two more tonight.  Much harder shooting in the dark with torch clamped on the top of the scope.  Should have nailed all three possums but rushed the shots. 
   
  Also looking at an old rusted Chinese 177 that will need  stripping down and rebuilding as a bit of a project as well.   Thanks for the offer, but I'm unlikely to be anywhere near Auckland for quite some time.      | 
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     Posted: 16 Sep 2025 at 11:04pm | 
 
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   Another Hatsan .25 owner here confirming that power is pretty reasonable. I chrono'd mine again today with about 8-10 shots all between 669 and 674fps, so around 27fpe. (Jsb hades)  
   
  You should be aware they need some tinkering to make shoot nicely and are a bit of a "project gun" Definitely a labour of love more than a reliable workhorse. Have taken possums and a wallaby with mine, though to be honest my gamo .22 Mach 1 IGT (23fpe) has actually been a more effective hunting rifle - it's lighter and I can aim it more easily, and I find it slightly less hold sensitive (but still very hold sensitive) and I wish I had a FAL to get a PCP.. If you're coming to AKL in the near future, you'd be welcome to pop in and put some pellets through my Hatsan QE135 .25. Edited by Loud_Whisper - 16 Sep 2025 at 11:06pm  | 
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     Posted: 15 Sep 2025 at 8:24pm | 
 
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   I would go for the Hatsan .25 over the .30. I have .25 and it is powerful enough to take goats out to around 30 yards. I have shot many no problems and the .25 have a way better pellet choice over the very limited .30 range.  
   
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     Posted: 15 Sep 2025 at 8:10pm | 
 
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   I don't dislike the Gamo - other than the cheek rest being too low for the scope which makes it difficult to ensure EXACTLY the same position behind the scope each time.  I do have a slip on pad with different size inserts that will hopefully solve that.   The SAT doesn't seem too bad - but then I have never done a lot of rifle shooting before this.  It seems reasonably accurate when I get everything right. 
   
  Maybe I will keep the Gamo and buy a Hatsan 30 cal as well - just coz I can. Why not have the most powerful break-barrel air gun in the world.  Nearest house is over 2km away so not as if I am going to annoy anyone with it.  Also looking at a  couple of  cheap springer 177s on TradeMe at present- and another spring air pistol. This is getting addictive 
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     Posted: 15 Sep 2025 at 10:43am | 
 
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   Interesting on durability of the red dot. I found this on Aliexpress with what looks like references for range on the reticle for sorting out ballistics. 
   
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     Posted: 15 Sep 2025 at 10:32am | 
 
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   I was surprised that it did work, I have only practiced on targets. I had someone else using the Cree spotlight set on high so there was plenty of light.  
   
  In my opinion this rifle will destroy any scope air rated or not. This model red dot appears to be indestructible, Stealth brand $80.  Rifle comes out for fun, 10 shots is my limit, kicks like a mule, extra padding on my shoulder required. The fixed sights also work well for me at 15 - 20 yards. Airgun Depot had their list of the top 5 most powerful break barrels airguns of which I own the first 3. The Sig Sauer is easily the most accurate among these. 1 .30 Hatsan model 135 (heavy and kicks) 30 ft/lb 2 .22 Gamo Swarm  (kicks and trigger is not ideal) 29ft/lb 3 .22 Sig Sauer ASP20 (heavy but effective) 21ft/lb  | 
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     Posted: 15 Sep 2025 at 9:06am | 
 
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   Hi Mercs, 
   
  How well does the red dot work on this gun at night?   Napier Hunting & Fishing has a Hatsan 30 cal with red dot at the moment and as I do need to go to Hastings in the next week or so, thought it might be worth the look .... 
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