Firearms Laws and Licensing

Gees with appox 400 000 air guns in nz youd think they would be a better 2nd hand market

I think we're more part in our thinking than we are in expressing our thinking.

Tactical is fashionable and I'm not really judging the people but think this fashion is not a good look for a air rifle/firearms industry in a bit of a PR crisis with many of the public thinking there is no good reason to own anything that can be used as a weapon.

It does seem that the latest and best PCPs are more and more a non-traditional look. But the default look for non-traditional seems to be tactical.

Kruzer, interesting stats but a more detailed breakdown to see what is an "incident", seriousness of injuries and deaths. Death numbers are predictably high from the weapon of choice of mass murderers.

We seem to only hear about hunters shot while hunting, accidents with loaded firearms accidentally fired (which should never happen but usually firearms are being used legally - a failure of the operator to do what he/she was taught in FAL training, gangs bringing firearms to a brawl or a stand-over murders with intent and mass shootings.

Good point Pauly and exactly my thinking re the Impact - it's the latest and greatest from FX and I'd love one but there does not seem to be a traditional option in the Impact i.e. like the Dreamline Classic.

It is interesting that most cullers have a bull-pup style. I've never even held one but can't get my head around how they would fit me...but there must be significant advantages given they usually required more trigger and cocking linkages.   

I'd like to hear from some younger people on this forum because I am definitely biased by age and perhaps experience and struggle with tactical FAs even looking like mankillers. And most regular posters here aren't young.

It's too easy for old codgers like me to grizzle "it wasn't like that in my day" ... but I guess I'm actually suggesting there is a link between tacticals and their users being more likely to be unsafe which is likely to be bollocks I'm guessing... :-)

But yeah, I do fail to see why anyone but a serious collector would want an AR-15 style FA... 

Why would you prefer a less tactical looking gun pauly?
Why cant you add a night vision, torches etc to a standard rifle?
I have a bi pod in shed that can be added to a break barrel rifle or pcp, i have night vision which can be fitted on my rifle or pcp, i have a torch which is used on my rifle scope and is also capabile of being mounted on the night vision hence also pcp.
That seems like a weak reasoning.
I cant argue against the fact that an fx appears to be an excellent and accurate gun and styling doesnt change that. I assume that looks that way because design dictated its basic form for user comfort and is essential for shooting a gun accurately.

Thats fair enough.
Im assuming its just the ar type stuff as you've mentioned. I have no dought you were out there back in the day with the good old 303 lee Enfield army surplus rifle shooting large game like so many.
Its really the mindset these days as i see it. I dont think the fal test deals with that in anyway.
Id be happier with having to pay to see a psychiatrist specialist out of your own pocket for mental out look, then a small fee for background check, testing and registering. Skip the referees all together. Still be cheaper and faster than the current system.
Im still trying to figure out how the price for a fal has gone up so much when the system is digital.