Lobbying for change

Edited by KiwiTR6 - 08 Jul 2024 at 9:22pm

kruzaroad wrote: Lmao isn't it usually ppl go to pcp cause they don't like springers? Not visa versa. I don't think he's sujesting that all pcps are limited to 12fpe, but like England you don't need a fal for anything under 12fpe. Fal for anything over 12fpe. So it won't affect your guns if you have mag loading multiple shot, high power pcp. I think the under 12 fpe without a fal in pcp would open up the sport of pcp shooting to many and pest control. They are the upgrade from springers for hunting for many. People have the right to control pests. Poms have proved 12fpe is enough for rabbits out to 100m. Still wouldn't like my single shot, that have to recock every shot springer to lose it's extra few fpe over 12fpe, but if it opens up the amount of pest critters shot due people being able to access easy to shoot accurate low powered guns, I'm for it. Killing things isn't a sport. We have a problem with pest critters. Any shooter taking pest numbers down is better than nothing. Target shooting is a sport. Under 12 fpe will open that sport up. Bring in new blood and give people a chance to explore the sport before deciding if they want to spend all that money on a fal before being able to purchase a pcp to participate.

Lmao isn't it usually ppl go to pcp cause they don't like springers? Not visa versa.
I don't think he's sujesting that all pcps are limited to 12fpe, but like England you don't need a fal for anything under 12fpe. Fal for anything over 12fpe. So it won't affect your guns if you have mag loading multiple shot, high power pcp.
I think the under 12 fpe without a fal in pcp would open up the sport of pcp shooting to many and pest control.
They are the upgrade from springers for hunting for many.
People have the right to control pests.
Poms have proved 12fpe is enough for rabbits out to 100m.
Still wouldn't like my single shot, that have to recock every shot springer to lose it's extra few fpe over 12fpe, but if it opens up the amount of pest critters shot due people being able to access easy to shoot accurate low powered guns, I'm for it.
Killing things isn't a sport.
We have a problem with pest critters.
Any shooter taking pest numbers down is better than nothing.

Target shooting is a sport.
Under 12 fpe will open that sport up. Bring in new blood and give people a chance to explore the sport before deciding if they want to spend all that money on a fal before being able to purchase a pcp to participate.

Firstly, it’s a bit odd that you are an air gun enthusiast but your first post is trying to rally support of a political nature… 🤔

Secondly, proposing a FPE limit for licence free pcp ownership is not going to ensure safe and responsible use of anything by anyone.
Infact, no rule or regulation you can impose on people, or remove from any existing legislation, is going to ensure people will suddenly begin to practise the safe and responsible use of firearms.

Thirdly, having done a fair amount of pest control myself using PCP’s, my opinion of the amount of FPE required to humanely kill/cull ferral cats and possums, is well above the “safe for every guy and his dog to freely own” level and should certainly come with the responsibility of a firearms licence.

LESS then 12 FPE is fine for mice, rats, sparrows, pigeons, and small game up to rabbit size, but possums and cats are a lot bigger with much heavier bone structure then rabbits, and to despatch them cleanly (unless you have the muzzle close to the back of their head) either requires greater FPE or exceptional marksmanship.

The crazy part is that at the moment “every guy and his dog” CAN freely own a “greater then 12FPE” air rifle, even ones with a 10 shot magazine, all you need to be is over 18, they are called springers and they can humanely dispatch possums and cats just as well as any PCP if the shooter is capable.
The part of the equation that needs regulating is unfortunately the part that is very difficult to regulate, the ethics, accuracy, saftey and gun manners of the user.
That’s where mentorship programs should come in.

Welcome to the forum.