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    Posted: 29 Jun 2023 at 5:07am
Originally posted by RangerPete RangerPete wrote:

Hi J-S,
How’s ur Webley .25 going? Give us an update on the state of ur Hawke scope.
I’m thinking of getting myself a “big bore” springer, either a .25 or maybe a .30 🤔


To be honest I havent used it a lot, apart from sighting it in at the club with the scope. The hawkes are pretty reliable so I have no doubt it will last a while. Ill have to bring it out again and give it a good run when im feeling strong!
Its a beast to cock and heavy punch on firing. Its very accurate though as are most the old webleys.
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Hi J-S,
How’s ur Webley .25 going? Give us an update on the state of ur Hawke scope.
I’m thinking of getting myself a “big bore” springer, either a .25 or maybe a .30 🤔
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Hi JS, Its a real beast of a gun , but great fun, you soon develop 
muscles you never knew you had, but once mastered it if you have 
a good one its fun.enjoy it& have fun
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Originally posted by shooter747 shooter747 wrote:

  Hi j-S .I shot a patriot a few days ago at my local Airgun dealer
it was set at 22 fpe i used to own one of these 15 yrs back ,after 
a few shots ,i was able to to place 10 shots over 28 yds so close a10 pence 
would cover them  my RFD was well impressed, he does not know i have shot one many times
before.!!
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They take some getting used to. Last I shot mine I was frustrated as I was getting 2 seperate groups, but very tight, but then realised it was a change in how I was holding it and head position.
Once concentrating it came right.
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  Hi j-S .I shot a patriot a few days ago at my local Airgun dealer
it was set at 22 fpe i used to own one of these 15 yrs back ,after 
a few shots ,i was able to to place 10 shots over 28 yds so close a10 pence 
would cover them  my RFD was well impressed, he does not know i have shot one many times
before.!!
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Hey thanks so much for those, that's a huge help. I think mine doesn't have that bridge bit so I might have to weld it too as I did notice the slot wasn't the same all the way down
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This is the rebuilt shoe on the cocking arm


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The closer action is the newer one with a quattro trigger. Notice the metal bridge between the cocking slot and the trigger slot. The other one is my .22 Patriot with the older crappy cocking arm piston slot and trigger design), I welded a support there as the slot had opened out a bit, which added to the problem with the cocking arm coming off the piston.




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Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

Yes I have read that they fail on these. I've put a blob of weld onto the end and reshaped it but it keeps binding.


That should work, I will dig up a photo of my weld and reshape on my Turkish patriot.
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Yes I have read that they fail on these. I've put a blob of weld onto the end and reshaped it but it keeps binding.
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Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

I've got new seals arriving in the next week or so for my Patriot .25cal and also a Gas Ram conversion all from custom air seals.

Still having problems with the cocking lever so looking at ordering a new one out from the UK.

Will let you know if the gas rams helps control the beast


I would not bother ordering a new cocking arm for that model, as it will likely fail very quickly too.
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I've got new seals arriving in the next week or so for my Patriot .25cal and also a Gas Ram conversion all from custom air seals.

Still having problems with the cocking lever so looking at ordering a new one out from the UK.

Will let you know if the gas rams helps control the beast
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Originally posted by kruzaroad kruzaroad wrote:

Nice work on getting the group size down. Obviously a gun that needs skill to shoot, hat off to you. Be interested to see further posts on it at varying distance distance.
what pellet are you shooting through it?

Its got a big spring in it and generally the bigger the spring / more power, the harder they are to shoot. Once you have a predictable trigger then its learning how that rifle likes to be held - generally artilery hold, letting it do its thing is best for powerful springers - trying to hold it tight doesnt often work in your favour.

This seems to like JSB exact Kings, but could probably do with some more testing. It got the most power efficiency with kings - higher weight yeilded less power and lower weight gave faster FPS but a little less power.
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Nice work on getting the group size down. Obviously a gun that needs skill to shoot, hat off to you. Be interested to see further posts on it at varying distance distance.
what pellet are you shooting through it?
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I've just picked up one of these too, except it looks like mine is the hatsan made TR version (someone will know did Hatsan buy Webley and Scott) was originally on trademe for over $700 but then the cocking leaver gave up the ghost so I got it dirt cheap! Will be interesting to use it along side with my .25 hatsan for a comparison. The Webley has a full length barrel so I will hopefully be thinking that it will be more accurate at longer ranges than the hatsan (hatsan has quite a short barrel before the inbuilt suppressor)
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