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paulo.baronceli
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Posted: 09 Jan 2023 at 8:40pm |
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Found this on another forum and thought about sharing it here. They all seem a bit low to me, but what are your thoughts?
I would add, just by my own experience (probs all wrong!): Small/Medium Turkey: 20FPE Big Turkey: 25FPE Magpie: 12FPE Black Bird: 6FPE Small Mice: 0.65FPE head only (I did it with a plastic BB pistol at 2m ish!!) Rat: 4FPE |
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kruzaroad
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I just work off under 5fpe is out.
6 fpe is enough to punch into a skull on small critters. ( pass on possums never had the pleasure of air rifling one) Body shots in happy around 10fpe On the sig that's about 70m. |
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The quoted minimum FPE would be the retained energy down range required for efficient kill - not energy measured at the muzzle. So for an 18FPE air rifle, 5fpe is probably the retained energy out at 80yards, so its useful to know the energy required for a clean kill, as well as the ballistic info for your gun / pellet combo so you can judge the safe distance you can stretch to dependent on the animal.
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kruzaroad
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So what would be the fpe for a possum?
I know dam well that Ive head shot a possum with a 22 sub, it's dropped from the tree and had a swip at me when ive gone to get get. Read a few posts that recon if you throat shoot it works well. Whats ppls actual experiance with possums? I'll be heading out some time this year to shoot few in a differnt area and could do with a few real life experiance on the subject, to avoid taking shots that might only injure ( Though from my experiance a wounded possum will often head down the tree) |
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paulo.baronceli
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You're dead right, although the muzzle energy can also be a good indicator. The deceleration is exponential after a certain distance, but before then the retained energy drop isn't substantial. Of course it will vary a lot depending on a number of factors - pellet weight, wind, etc, etc - but I still believe that muzzle energy can be a good quick indicator for someone that doesn't want to get too technical about it. Maybe the other forum's post referred to the energy retained at the target, not muzzle, which would explain the lower than expected - at least for me - numbers.
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nunga
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Ive been shooting Possums for years. around 19pfe to the head or chest will do the trick, But with possums shot placement is the key, even more so than other animals. You can shoot a possum 5 or 6 times in the body and it will get up give you the finer then run away. They are very hard to kill and not good to leave them like that as it will be a slow and painful death. So head shots or chest for possums
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kruzaroad
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That will give me 15m on the sig. 1322 not at all. Haven't sorted the 362 for pellet yet but I'd suppect 10m-15range.
Cheers Nunga, that's info I'll store away. |
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mercs
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Agree with Nunga head or chest.
I use .22 Gamo Black Knight 21 ft/lb on H&N FTT. Hi Paulo, I would like to hear about your BSA Spitfire and does the Umarex SurgeMax rail work? cheers
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paulo.baronceli
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Is there anything specific you’re wanting to know about the Spitfire? I found it to be quite a good gun, and probably amongst the most accurate in my collection - quite beautiful too. If I was to be extremely critical, the gun is quite heavy - maybe part of why it’s so accurate - quicks a bunch, and is very noisy, as my one is the muzzle-break version with no thread for a suppressor, but overall, no regrets for buying it, I really enjoy the rifle and can surely recommend it - a lot of value for your money. It’s the same as the BSA Lightning, but with the Gamo 10 shot mag and a different barrel finish. The rail on the SurgeMax is a normal 20mm picatinny. If you’re thinking about buying it, I would surely say that unless you get a very good deal, you can probably do better with your money. It’s quite a heavy and powerful rifle too, but it is rough as guts. Quite clunky and the rear stock is full metal, which makes it quite cold to use in the winter, and I don’t know if that’s because I don’t use it much, but even lubricating it often, the barrel break is quite tough and don’t feel as smooth. I’ve heard good things about the Stoeger RX20 (Or S4000 in the USA), which is in the same price range, but seems to be a much better gun. Edited by paulo.baronceli - 10 Jan 2023 at 6:43pm |
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I had a BSA spitfire that I modded. Came to me without the mag. I absolutely loved the feel of the rifle and shot .22 H&N terminator pellets very accurately. It destroyed a hawke scope and I sold it off to fund another project and missed it ever since
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