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nunga
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Posted: 21 Jun 2013 at 5:01pm |
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I do have some ideas about that TX problem, but need a sample to play with.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2013 at 2:32pm |
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Well i have the new high spec ram installed in the gun today but i have noticed right off the bat that it would not preform as i would like, I could see this even before i installed it. the outer shaft seal is not what i wanted and i could see it would not do the job.
Used using a simple compression test on the bench I could tell they did not put the vent groves in like i wanted and as a result when the pressure is released off the ram there is back pressure building up inside the seal and this will restrict the movement of the shaft moving forward. I did install it just to see what would happen but as i thought the thing did not preform. Very disappointed in the end result. I took a hacksaw to the base of the ram and cut the end off. pulled the ram apart and checked it to see how they made it. It looks very simple and i can easily knock one up in my workshop with the specs that i know will work. I can see improvements of the ram that they have sent me that will increase the life span of the ram as well. Will keep you posted |
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 5:04pm |
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Just an update. I have been holding off on this for a little bit as i have had a part on my lath brake and have only just managed to get a replacement part shipped in from England. I am hoping it will be here tomorrow and can start work on the ram over the weekend.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 5:08am |
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Greetings.
This is my first post. I signed up last night. Any way, I am new to air rifles / air guns, but have been reading a lot about them lately, and am keen to get my hands on a good reliable, QUIET, low recoil air rifle, that is easily capable of knocking over possums, and is accurate. I don't have a FAL, and can't be bothered with getting one again. I have a possum v fruit tree problem !! (sorry - not trying to side track this thread) Anyway . . . I am interested in this topic regarding conversion from spring to gas ram. Can any / most spring guns be converted ? I'm not technical, but could most gun shops do a conversion if a ram was obtained ? Good luck with your conversion. You obviously have pretty good technical skills to manage this process. I will be keen to read your results. Cheers, Grant. |
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Posted: 15 Oct 2013 at 5:59pm |
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Well i just got in from the garage, My new part came in the post this morning so i have been in the garage installing it. I had to machine up a new bush for it before it fit. ( i dont think it was the exact model that i ordered)
Everything is good now :) very happy camper at the moment. The auto feed and thread cutting is back online :) Grant, most rifles can be converted with the exception of the guns like Weihrauchs etc these can not be rammed due to the trigger latch coming out of the middle of the piston. But if anyone has one they are willing to donate for science I do have some ideas :) |
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Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 5:36am |
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I decided to start my gas ram again from scratch. The parts that they supply just do not look like they would last very long so I have got my tube i will be using and i have just finished the seal for the piston. I decided to do the seal first because it is the hardest for me to machine. The plastic does not like fine cuts so i can machine the tube out or make the shaft step to suit the internal hole in the plastic.
![]() After machining the OD of the plastic it is time to do the internal hole. ![]() Next i need to machine a angle on the OD so the plastic will expand to seal against the iner tube wall when pressure is added to it. ![]() You cant really see the angle because my light is not the best but it is good :) Tonight i will machine up the piston and shaft. |
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Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 5:37pm |
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Just finished the shaft - piston.
![]() ![]() This is the finished item with the seal fitted. I will do the tube and bearing over the next few days :) |
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Posted: 25 Oct 2013 at 6:25am |
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Looking interesting mate, watching this build :)
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Posted: 26 Oct 2013 at 5:52am |
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Did some quick testing last night. machined up a test tube with a bike inner tube valve on one end to put some pressure in. I managed to get it to hold 90PSI with out any leaks. Then did a compression of the shaft and watched the pressure rise to 150 before the valve gave way. The seal its self it sweet i just need to work on the filling part. :)
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Posted: 26 Oct 2013 at 9:58am |
![]() This is my test tube with the inner tube valve :) I have just figured out a cool little one way valve that wont take up space inside the tube so the piston shouldnt hit it. I will try to get it done tonight because i have just been told that we are going away for the long weekend..... and the dragon-inlaw ops... my mother in law will be joining us. Edited by Nunga - 26 Oct 2013 at 9:59am |
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Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 6:28pm |
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Well i finished the new the end plug with the valve, sorry didnt take photos this time. Will do some pressure testing tomorrow and if all goes well i will put in the gun and see how it goes. But it is looking good so far.
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Posted: 01 Nov 2013 at 6:21am |
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Nice work bud, if you'd had it together earlier it might have helped with your dragon problem :)
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Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 11:23am |
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ha ha yea :)
Update. Finished testing and i managed to get just over 350psi into the ram using an old fridge compressor. Fitted it back into the gun and fired a few rounds to see how it did. I used the same tin of .22 RWS super dome that i used before. Here is the results through the chrony. I got around 20fps difference between shots. I will have to look at the main shaft seal in the ram because i think the friction is causing the changes in the FPS. But all in all i am happy with the way the ram is sealing. It will need some tweaking but it is well on the way. ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 1:12pm |
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944 from a .22 is bloody good! The second photo at 365...... Not so much :)
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Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 1:24pm |
thats a 9 not a 3 :) |
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