Webbly and Scott .25 rebuild

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   Rainy horrible day forcing me to stay indoors. Made some progress on my Webbly .25 cal spring to gas ram conversion. Has had all it's seals replaced from customer air seals and I also got the gas ram for it from them too. 

First problem is the ram is too long for the gun... And the rear section of the ram needs to be set back 15mm into the rear section of the cast end cap for it to work. Spent some time down at the old guy down the road and he will lathe up a new end cap as modifying the original means it will probably disintegrate under the load.

Next problem with the gas ram needing to be in the position it needs to be means that the safety won't work...! Never really use them so may need to redo the safety switch to operate in another way! 

There is a possibility that the ram is too long for this gun (was for the hatsan/webbly guns) this is a hatsan built Webbly and knowing from rebuilding my vortex hatsan I would say it would have fitted perfectly into a hatsan with no mods. 

Love when a project throws you it's challenge's to work outside the status quo 

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Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Webbly and Scott .25 rebuild Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 4:50pm
	Rainy horrible day forcing me to stay indoors. Made some progress on my Webbly .25 cal spring to gas ram conversion. Has had all it's seals replaced from customer air seals and I also got the gas ram for it from them too. First problem is the ram is too long for the gun... And the rear section of the ram needs to be set back 15mm into the rear section of the cast end cap for it to work. Spent some time down at the old guy down the road and he will lathe up a new end cap as modifying the original means it will probably disintegrate under the load. Next problem with the gas ram needing to be in the position it needs to be means that the safety won't work...! Never really use them so may need to redo the safety switch to operate in another way! There is a possibility that the ram is too long for this gun (was for the hatsan/webbly guns) this is a hatsan built Webbly and knowing from rebuilding my vortex hatsan I would say it would have fitted perfectly into a hatsan with no mods. Love when a project throws you it's challenge's to work outside the status quo

nunga Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Pukekohe Status: Offline Posts: 1012	Post Options Post Reply Quote nunga Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 8:34pm
	if you find out the ram is too long for the gun after you cut it down i do have one of my gas rams here for the hatsan left over when i converted my mod125 over to gas ram, you will need to cut it down from memory, just remember when cutting the ram down that you make sure you cut it 3mm shorter then it needs to be to avoid bottoming out the ram and damaging it.
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Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 9:04pm
	Thanks for that, will let you know how I get on. We decided to machine a whole new part rather than modify the original just incase it doesn't work and I can return it to original.

kruzaroad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2022 Location: Hastings 4 now Status: Offline Posts: 2284	Post Options Post Reply Quote kruzaroad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 8:46am
	Are you planning on altering the safety so the stock one stills works? If theres room in the between the sears of the trigger assembly, a crosman type saftey is a simple affair requiring one spring and the safety pin, which would be totally lathe turntable. Require two holes drilled in trigger group housing. Its also manual.

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 6:53pm
	Original safety won't work, might have to do one similar to BSA air guns with a side operated switch. I'll post pics when I have the machined parts

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1415	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 7:53am
	Ohh, we love photos of machining and machined parts. Gets the juices flowing.

RangerPete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Cambridge. Status: Offline Posts: 884	Post Options Post Reply Quote RangerPete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 10:07am
	Hi Billbob, How did your Webely .25 rebuild turn out? Did u get it all back together and shooting nicely? Any pics?
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Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 10:27pm
	Still in parts, I need a tiny little bit of lathe work to finish it.

Pauly5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Location: Titahi Bay Status: Offline Posts: 1415	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pauly5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2023 at 9:28am
	Has your work got the lathe yet? What needs to be done?

Billbobnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jun 2020 Location: Ashburton Status: Offline Posts: 867	Post Options Post Reply Quote Billbobnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 2023 at 9:34pm
	No lathe at work yet. Been put on back burner! (Mutter mutter) Part that the guy down the road made just needs a tiny bit more done to fit. Will take it back to him hopefully this weekend.