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Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 28 Apr 2026 at 2:00am

if you can only have two air guns...

I'm a .177 shooter/hunter I only have two .177's but that's just because I got lucky but if I could only have two airguns I'd keep my prosport and buy a Diana 31 panther in .22 as I've had one of those and they're awesome, light, accurate (jsb14.3gr) a real outdoors bush basher food harvester with great T05 trigger, I see them at Youngs for $750 the same price as a Cometa Fusion which is a great springer also but it's not Diana level and then the Gamo's are 1k for budget airguns.

Brand is as important as Caliber.

You can buy a sh*t brand and it's a good one, but that's not common

Nowadays I look at survival, .177 and .22 pellets are everywhere. they used to be so much cheaper, I see some AA tins have doubled in price over 5 years and they will never be cheaper than now, so stock up while you can.

.25 I've never seen or tried so I dont know how common the pellets are but I bet they're not that common.

both .177 and .22 12-18ft/lb max with good shot placement will kill any small game in NZ and if the world turns to crap, both will head/neck a duck/goose rabbit/hare/possum out to 60m consistently with the right pellet and practice

I drive a hilux too, think practical if you want to survive



]]> Tue, 28 Apr 2026 02:00:29 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14075#14075 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14056#14056 Author: -Ec
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 22 Apr 2026 at 12:04pm

Spinners are great once you have your gun(s) dialled in but nothing beats paper for getting your gun dialled in.  Even a large piece of cardboard with a simple cross in black marker pen works well.  The big advantage with paper - as long as it is big enough, is that you can see if you are high, low ,left or right of you point of aim and adjust accordingly.

Even when you have your guns zeroed at what ever range you prefer, paper is best for working out your hold-overs and hold unders at different ranges.

Can't recall who came up with the bottle top challenge - Pauly5 I think?  It's an easy way to test your accuracy is up to par 
]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:04:55 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14056#14056 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14053#14053 Author: kruzaroad
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 22 Apr 2026 at 9:17am

Why would the paper punches be smirking? Truthfully you'd be better off with targets than spinners as you can monitor your misses etc as you get use to gun. Checking wind drift of pellets etc.
Theres a cheap spinner target at gun city. A one inch and two inch circles . Push into ground. Page 102 of you got to be out there to see.
Perfect for taking on your trip. Light compact enough to sit in backpack light and simple.]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2026 09:17:22 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14053#14053 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14052#14052 Author: Ashman
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 22 Apr 2026 at 8:44am

EC the beer bottle top idea is a goodie.  It'll have to be Ginger Beer though, probably a Bundie.  Hitting one of those consistently at 40m should be a nice challenge.
The weather forecast for my camp site at Lake Heron looks pretty sh*te today so I'll head down to a local river bed and put some shots through and head off camping overnight tomorrow.  There's bunnies in the river bed too.
There are rimfire spinner self resetting targets/pellet traps that are around bottle top size, and I may pick up one of those today in my search for appropriate pellets.
I'll get dialled in shooting technique wise and post what happens.   Some of the paper punchers on here will be smirking, I'm guessing, but, so far, everyone on here has been really supportive, positive and helpful, even if my choice of a Gamo over other far more premium brands might leave some scratching their heads.
]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2026 08:44:55 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14052#14052 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14049#14049 Author: -Ec
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 10:14pm

Great that you have a chance to fully test the .25 before making a decision - hopefully the weather gods will treat you well and you will be able to make the most of the time.

Check out the bottle-top challenge/test  basically a beer bottle top is about the size of a rabbit's brain so if you can consistently hit one at the ranges you want to be able to hunt, both you and the gun are good to go.

I agree with you about wooden stocks for hunting - just too easy to scratch/mark.   My Hassan has a beautiful Turkish Walnut stock and even though I don't use it much for hunting it already has a few marks.  At  just on 10 pounds it is too heavy to carry for too long, and at 30FPE it is a beast to cock and shoot.  I do enjoy using it and is very accurate when I get everything right.  It certainly hits hard!

I can see the benefit  of having 2 guns that are very similar to hold and shoot - has to be an advantage for achieving consistency with both guns.   My 4 rifles are all completely different to shoot - which I enjoy.  However what I want from my guns is not relevant to what you want. So enjoy your 3 days camping and keep us updated with your trip.




Edited by -Ec - 22 Apr 2026 at 8:07am]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:14:55 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14049#14049 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14047#14047 Author: Ashman
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 8:53pm

What I'm really looking for is a small game harvester, not a tack driver, though they need to be accurate to harvest game anyway and the .22, which I've shot out to 40 metres thus far, is.   If the .25 can do the same, that would be superb.
Finesse is the same for me in rifles as it is in cars.  I drive a Hilux.   It's an A to B event and the drive doesn't have to be flash or particularly comfortable .   The same with my rifles and guns over the years.   What I do know is I don't want a wooden stock.
And for hunting, repeatability in hold, trigger mech and optics always makes sense so that when you're accustomed to and effective with 1, it's innately transferrable to the other.   Which is why in the last 20 years all I ever bought was T3 Tikkas, with the one exception being a Remington Tactical, which was a mistake.  Had T3's in 7mm08, .223 and .204.
The .25 is as new.   The optics are identical and I was able to put some 33g slugs through it, but he had no pellets so I'm waiting till tomorrow to grab some of those and see what it can do grouping wise.   Even with the slugs , the groups at 10 metres were...... acceptable, being that it is that I have never used slugs like that in an air rifle.   Interesting experience.
What I'm really looking for is longevity and, treated right, I should get that, given the all metal construction (mostly)and automotive quality plastics and polyethylenes plus fibre glass used in the stock.   The scopes are aluminium and seem pretty robust, but I don't really know that yet, although I did drop the .22 off the yellow top wheelie bin I was using for sighting and garked it, yet even from that height, It still held the zero, surprisingly.  It was a bit of a thump, on to concrete.  Good sign, I suppose, even though the stupidity of allowing that to happen left me feeling like a bit of a dick.
I've got three days off and I'm taking them both with me to a campsite I know.  Betwixt fishing and firing, it'll be an interesting few days.
]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 20:53:17 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14047#14047 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14046#14046 Author: kruzaroad
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 6:50pm

Might work out better? Definitly works out ec.🙂]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:50:18 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14046#14046 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14045#14045 Author: kruzaroad
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 6:46pm

I went from a gamo to tx200 to sig asp20 to a weihrauch hw97 and now a diama ar8. Two of those are raved about rifles on airgun circles.
I prefer the diana to all of them. Cost less second hand.
My favorite gun is the 1322.
A thousand bucks puts you a good.position to get a second hand gun with good build and known for accuracy.
Id try before buy his gun. It may not be what your after. Jave you test d your gamo over distance? You may find you want a gun that shoots distance better than your current one.
There are a lot of advantages to a standard power rifle.
You can always buy replacement parts for storage.

]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:46:16 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14045#14045 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14044#14044 Author: -Ec
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 6:44pm

I tend to put a a hand full of pellets in a pocket but something like this might work out better.  I always ONLY have pellets in the particular pocket which makes grabbing the next round easy even in the dark.   I've thought of the "quick load round holders"  available on Trade me for around 10 bucks but not sure I would want to stick this on my stock(s) and not sure how well they would work out in the dark.

Edited by -Ec - 21 Apr 2026 at 6:51pm]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:44:50 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14044#14044 Pauly's Technical Area : .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1340&PID=14043#14043 Author: Ashman
Subject: .177 and .22or .22 and .25 for small game?
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 6:21pm

That is bloody brilliant.  Rattles are for babies, not bunnies.
As an aside, a mate of mine heard I was getting back in too air rifles and has offered me a Swarm .25 Magnum with the same scope as I've got on the .22 with about 500 pellets through it (basically hes run it in for me) and it's a year old Gen 3 with the inertia fed Mag for $1000.
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