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Subject: 779
Posted: 18 Jun 2023 at 3:36pm

Cool beans 👍🏻
Let us know how it goes with the heavies and plotting ur trajectory 👍🏻.]]> Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:36:40 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7109#7109 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : Thanks for that Pete.It makes... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7106#7106 Author: KiwiTR6
Subject: 779
Posted: 18 Jun 2023 at 2:22pm

Thanks for that Pete.

It makes perfect sense and I have a range finder so it should be fairly easy for me to plot a curve.  As you say, it will be different for different pellets, although I purchased a couple of tins of JSB Diablo Heavies this morning so it looks like I've made a decision in that respect.

Cheers
]]> Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:22:16 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7106#7106 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : Hi Kiwi,I’ve drawn up what I... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7101#7101 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 779
Posted: 18 Jun 2023 at 5:03am

Hi Kiwi,

I’ve drawn up what I think best shows what I’m trying to explain.
But again, I’m not an expert on anything and this is just from my own experiance.
I’ve just used example distances in the diagram, you will have to work out at what distance your pellets from your gun reach the top of their arc before they start dropping. Every rifle and pellet combination is going to be different.

But in the diagram, if u zero ur scope at 30m, any target from 25m out to 35m you will hit, with just one point of aim. Just point and shoot! I’ve also found that most (not all, but a good majority) of the pests that I encounter are around this range.

But if u zero your rifle at 15m, u will only be accurate at 15m because ur pellet is still climbing at that closer distance. At 10m u will be low, and at 20m u will be high.
U will of course have a second zero (which I haven’t shown on the diagram but would be at about 37m in this example), so at 15 and 37, dead on, but any other distance u will need to know the distance and know your hold over or under.

For me personally zeroing at the top of the arc is the most practical and easiest way to do it, but everyone will be different 😉.
]]> Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:03:35 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7101#7101 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : RangerPete wrote:I know a diagram... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7093#7093 Author: KiwiTR6
Subject: 779
Posted: 17 Jun 2023 at 3:53am

Originally posted by RangerPete RangerPete wrote:

I know a diagram would help! If it doesn't make sense let me know and I’d be happy to try explain it again using examples and maybe a diagram 😂


Yep, that all makes perfect sense Pete.  Nevertheless a diagram would be appreciated if you have the time Big smile


Edited by KiwiTR6 - 17 Jun 2023 at 3:54am]]> Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:53:12 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7093#7093 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : “No contest really and the pellet... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7088#7088 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 779
Posted: 16 Jun 2023 at 12:36pm

“No contest really and the pellet drop is the same, although it would be nice if the red dot had a mil-dot reticle rather than the doughnut to make it easier to cater for that.”

That’s it, 100% 👍🏻.
Sounds like the red dot is definatly a better option for your eyes 👍🏻
If you are happy with only one aim point, you can have confidence in knowing that your rifle will be deadly accurate at that distance. And if you have the skill of being able to judge distance, you can learn to hold over or under depending on how far away your target is.

Just as a little extra, (I’m no expert on these things, but from my experiance) your pellets trajectory will have a “flatish” spot at the top of its arc, where it has almost stopped climbing out to where it has just started dropping.
That “top of the arc” area will cover a distance in length from 8 to 15m depending on the speed of your projectile.
If you can work out at what distance your pellet reaches the top of its arc, and zero your red dot there, you have given your self a range of 8,10, maybe 15m where you will be dead on target, as apposed to zeroing at only one specific distance where your pellet might still be climbing.
I hope that all made sense? I know a diagram would help! If it doesn't make sense let me know and I’d be happy to try explain it again using examples and maybe a diagram 😂
]]> Fri, 16 Jun 2023 12:36:11 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7088#7088 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : Billbobnz wrote:nice work on... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7078#7078 Author: KiwiTR6
Subject: 779
Posted: 15 Jun 2023 at 9:09am

Originally posted by Billbobnz Billbobnz wrote:

nice work on those tree bears...

did you pluck them for the fur?


Yes, they went to the local plucking outfit and I believe the carcasses also go into pet food.
]]> Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:09:32 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7078#7078 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : "Where as usually an air... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7077#7077 Author: KiwiTR6
Subject: 779
Posted: 15 Jun 2023 at 9:08am

"Where as usually an air rifle would need an aim point for 10m, another one for 20m, and probably another for 30m because of the big ark in the trajectory."


Understood Pete.  I initially sighted in at 20m, but based on what my colleague has told me I'll reset that to 15m for the possums.  I just need to make up my mind what pellets I'll use, initial sighting in was with 18g AA Diablo heavies which seem to be very good but currently in short supply.

Being someone who wears glasses with progressive lenses, using scopes presents a number of issues.  The beauty of the red dot is I can see both the image and the dot (which in the case of the EotechS1/S1 clones is known as the doughnut of death) clearly which means I can use the gun without having to touch my glasses.  Effectively it's an open site but with only a single point to align and this plus the target are both in focus.  With the open sights I'd be trying to align two points on the gun with the target and two of the three will be out of focus.  No contest really and the pellet drop is the same, although it would be nice if the red dot had a mil-dot reticle rather than the doughnut to make it easier to cater for that.

Thanks also Pauly for your explanation....



Edited by KiwiTR6 - 15 Jun 2023 at 9:11am]]> Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:08:06 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7077#7077 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : nice work on those tree bears...did... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7075#7075 Author: Billbobnz
Subject: 779
Posted: 15 Jun 2023 at 3:17am

nice work on those tree bears...

did you pluck them for the fur?
]]> Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:17:28 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7075#7075 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : Hi Kiwi,Air guns don’t push... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7067#7067 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 779
Posted: 14 Jun 2023 at 5:14pm

Hi Kiwi,
Air guns don’t push pellets very fast, even PCP’s are still comparatively slow compared to a powder burner.
The slower velocitys mean more of an arking trajectory, like a rainbow, where as a faster powder burner will shoot a flat trajectory, like a laser beam.
The red dot sight only gives you one point of aim, perfect for a flat shooting projectile out to 30 or 50m.
Where as usually an air rifle would need an aim point for 10m, another one for 20m, and probably another for 30m because of the big ark in the trajectory.
]]> Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:14:19 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7067#7067 Red dot sight for possum shooting? : It means at what distance does... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7063#7063 Author: Pauly5
Subject: 779
Posted: 14 Jun 2023 at 3:51pm

It means at what distance does the point of impact line up with the point of aim (the red dot).

So if that happens at 20m, it means that at 10m your point of impact will be below the aim point.]]> Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:51:49 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=779&PID=7063#7063