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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 : What about a 2 piece shot case...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=643">kruzaroad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 3:22am<br /><br />What about a 2 piece shot case pushed by a pellet?<br /> End of case printed to pellet nose shape. <br /> I can see potential problems such as lost volicity, uneven case separation aftecting pellet flight, pellet over taking shot. But could be worth a try.<br /> Biggest problem with steel shot is the bore damage to rifling, so firing the whole unit is an advantage.<br /> If you got a smooth bore you could try muzzle loading a wad then pour down some lead shot, then wad the front.<br /> Slow but give you a preety good spread pattern and basically no extra weight.<br /> I've got some of cotton shoot through swabs I never used you can try. <img src="uploads/643/IMG_20221106_084646.jpg" border="0" />]]>
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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 : Not too crazy! sounds like it&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=439">xyon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 2:17pm<br /><br />Not too crazy! sounds like it's a fun project.<br>]]>
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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 : pm me to sort out a day for chrono...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=643">kruzaroad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 4:46pm<br /><br /> pm me to sort out a day for chrono to be dropped off.<br /> Have you tried printing the cartridge in 2 pieces length ways? One side with the end plug attached, so the compressed air has something to push against.<br /> It will allow the cartridge to separate from around the pellets earlier.<br /> Basically a 2 piece sabo for an undersized projectile in a shot gun.<br /> Have you seen, taofledermaus? Basically they load and test home made shotgun projectiles and various wierd shot loads. A lot of them he alters the way the cartridge is packed for the particular load. Could be some good ideas there.<br />https://youtube.com/c/taofledermaus<br /> I wouldn't mind a letting you run a few shots through gamo, it's listed for experimenting.<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by kruzaroad - 05&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 4:52pm</span>]]>
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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 :   kruzaroad wrote:Sweet. Good...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=649">paulo.baronceli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 3:00pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by kruzaroad" alt="Originally posted by kruzaroad" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>kruzaroad wrote:</strong><br /><br />Sweet. Good on you for experimenting.<br> You say the cartridge spins some times, is the whole thing being fired?<br> Wonder what it would do through a pcp.<br> What is your end for grouping pattern over how far.<br> Keep us updated it's definitely pipped my curiousity</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Yes, I even tried shells with larger skirts to hold the shell in place, but I guess the fact it breaks the tightness of the breach seal reduces the power output by a lot, so allowing the entire cartridge to be propelled forwards with its content has got me better and more consistent results, and despite being made of PLA, the shells pack quite a punch when they don't spin.</div><div><br></div><div>It's just for fun, so I'm trying not to have too many rules around it, and if anyone has any ideas, just let me know and I can give it go.</div><div><br></div><div>On the chrony thing, I don't really have one. I think right now the numbers will be quite inconsistent though, but happy to try. Maybe you can even have some shells to give it a go at your end too. I wanted to test it with a .22 too, but all my 22s have mags on and I didn't really wanted to take them out to test it.</div>]]>
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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 : Have you got a chronohraph? Your...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=643">kruzaroad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 2:32pm<br /><br />Have you got a chronohraph?<br /> Your welcome to borrow mine for while and see what sort of fps your getting.<br /> I'm due to head into town in the next week. ]]>
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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 : Sweet. Good on you for experimenting....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=643">kruzaroad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 2:11pm<br /><br /> Sweet. Good on you for experimenting.<br /> You say the cartridge spins some times, is the whole thing being fired?<br /> Wonder what it would do through a pcp.<br /> What is your end for grouping pattern over how far.<br /> Keep us updated it's definitely pipped my curiousity]]>
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   <title>Shooting shells with any rifled airgun? 😦 : You will think I&amp;#039;m crazy,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=649">paulo.baronceli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 703<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05&nbsp;Nov&nbsp;2022 at 1:33pm<br /><br />You will think I'm crazy, but after I bought a Gamo Shadow DX Express I've been a bit obsessed with the concept of an air shotgun, and in my adventures I have read and learned a lot about the shot shells, why they are designed the way they are, and have decided I wanted to try something different...<div><br></div><div>Well, I've kinda designed and 3D printed .177 shells to be used on a rifled barrel instead... So I designed, printed, and filled it with&nbsp; no. 9 shots - between 7 to 12 pellets per shell - and to my utmost surprise, it worked!! Definitely not hunting material, but it never jammed, and it's so freaking fun.</div><div><br></div><div>After a few tests I figured that allowing the shell to be propelled forwards help a lot on neutralising the rifling, as the shots seem to spread only after - or just before - leaving the barrel, and it adds an extra punch and kinetic energy when it connects to the target. I tested it with a youth 6FPE and after a few different designs, the one I found worked the best was the one below:</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/649/Screenshot_2022-11-04_191720.jpg" height="120" width="223" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>The cartridge spins some times, but when I tried a more aerodynamic model I didn't really get too good patterning:</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/649/Screenshot_2022-11-04_191745.jpg" height="120" width="151" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>Still working my way through it, but it has been so fun that I decided to share it here. Maybe once I get a more final design I can send some to some forum members to test it out.</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/649/IMG-3419.jpg" height="90" width="120" border="0" />&nbsp;<img src="uploads/649/IMG-3423.jpg" height="90" width="120" border="0" /><img src="uploads/649/IMG-3421.jpg" height="90" width="120" border="0" /><br></div>]]>
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