Kiwi Airgunners Forum : Springer accuracy - first shots? www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ This is an XML content feed of; Kiwi Airgunners Forum : Pauly's Technical Area : Springer accuracy - first shots? Copyright (c) 2006-2012 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:20:21 +0000 Sat, 09 Jul 2022 09:37:45 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.14 360 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=625 Kiwi Airgunners Forum www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_images/logo.jpg www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ Springer accuracy - first shots? : as I primarily hunt with mine... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4147#4147 Author: kruzaroad
Subject: 625
Posted: 09 Jul 2022 at 9:37am

as I primarily hunt with mine and usually have to take a shot with a barrel that has had time to cool (for lack of a better description) I sighted in with my barrel cold. took a shot,adjusted mucked around for 10 minutes took next shot adjusted etc.once sighted I found my first and 2nd shots targetshooting were good then maybe a flyer or two then accurate again. pellet sizing and weighing helps. out of a pkt of ftt 5.53 I find that a weight of.95gm 14.66gr and head size of 5.45mm to 5.49mm load better than 5.50mm to 5.53mm. and that .95gm shoot a tad different to .96gm though the difference in weight is minor in effect. anything out side this range is not used. when I find a pkt ftt in 5.52mm I'll sort thru those to see if they are a better all round pellet.
i imagine that a target shooter would do the opposite sighting in as they shoot rounds in faster succession. ]]> Sat, 09 Jul 2022 09:37:45 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4147#4147 Springer accuracy - first shots? : i hadnt used springers for 20... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4049#4049 Author: dvlnme
Subject: 625
Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 1:03am

i hadnt used springers for 20 years again til recently,its been bit of a learning curve for me after using pcps for so long,had to learn how to shoot them again,getting hold right and dealing with recoil took me a while,allso having been spoilt by pcp match grade triggers,learning how to master springer triggers again got me back working on improving my springer triggers again,Paul and Mercs are right about the lube/temp things etc,particually in my case because my guns can sit unused for long periods of time,been wondering if i should strip the guns and completly delube them,and try spraying the cylander bores with some the metal penertrating industial silicon lubes available rather than using silcon oils,these amazing lubes last long time and are very slippery and prevent wear on steel parts interacting etc because they penertrate into the metal and remain in place,has anyone tryed these lubes??
 cheers mike
]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2022 01:03:30 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4049#4049 Springer accuracy - first shots? : I have found it pays to waste... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4048#4048 Author: Pauly5
Subject: 625
Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 4:57pm

I have found it pays to waste a few shots before getting serious with springers. I have always put it down to the lube and cylinder warming.

]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:57:07 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4048#4048 Springer accuracy - first shots? : am not really a spring gun shooter,do... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4045#4045 Author: dvlnme
Subject: 625
Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 3:33am

am not really a spring gun shooter,do use them at times but only for pest shooting and mine proberly not as hi quality or as accurate as yours,but have noticed the first few shots dont allways go where expected,Mercs explaination makes sense to me as my springers can sit in safe for quite long periods of time between uses,so any oil in cylanders would either dry out or end up dribbling down towards the spring leaving cylander dry when next used causing velocitys to be inconsistant from increased friction between piston and bore causing velocity to be inconsistant and causing the unexpected flyers etc.
 cheers mike
]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2022 03:33:35 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4045#4045 Springer accuracy - first shots? : Thanks Mike.But no - all my barrels... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4042#4042 Author: Myson
Subject: 625
Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 9:37am

Thanks Mike.

But no - all my barrels were cleaned recently (with Napier kit and oils) to eliminate that potential cause.

Cleaning the barrels about once every 5,000 shots certainly does improve groups on my PCP's and Springers. But it doesn't remedy the first 5 shots problem at all....

I think Mercs was on the right track?
]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:37:03 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4042#4042 Springer accuracy - first shots? : could be the barrels need cleaning,thats... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4041#4041 Author: dvlnme
Subject: 625
Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 1:00am

could be the barrels need cleaning,thats likely cause when normally accurate guns start shooting off
 cheers mike
]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2022 01:00:25 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4041#4041 Springer accuracy - first shots? : Thanks Mercs.Interesting! Good... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4031#4031 Author: Myson
Subject: 625
Posted: 19 Apr 2022 at 2:04am

Thanks Mercs.

Interesting! Good to hear about the lubricants and that other competitors have the "3 shot" rule.... I'm not alone in this! LOL
]]> Tue, 19 Apr 2022 02:04:16 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4031#4031 Springer accuracy - first shots? : I have been advised 3 shots to... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4030#4030 Author: mercs
Subject: 625
Posted: 18 Apr 2022 at 3:14pm

I have been advised 3 shots to warm up the chamber lubricants if using for competition targets.

Mine are stored in a relatively warm space and i do not really experience the issue.
Generally my rifles are like yours with modern seal materials and lubricants.

I use 1 drop of silicone oil for each 250 pellets, applied carefully into the chamber and then i fire off 2 or 3 pellets to clear any excess. This supposedly helps keep good contact between seal face and chamber.
This instruction was from a 2018 Crosman gas piston rifle manual.
I use the same routine on all springer brands.

The Silicone oil is very different to Pelgun oil both are supplied by Crosman.

A lot of conflicting views on internal lubrication of air rifles including some that reckon modern rifles should be left alone.
]]> Mon, 18 Apr 2022 15:14:30 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4030#4030 Springer accuracy - first shots? : Hi All,Each day the first 5 shots... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=625&PID=4029#4029 Author: Myson
Subject: 625
Posted: 18 Apr 2022 at 2:46am

Hi All,

Each day the first 5 shots of both of my lovely springers are inaccurate. The group produced is 2-3 times larger than subsequent groups.

After the first 5 shots things settle down and tight groups reappear. Smile

This consistently happens and now I usually "waste" the first five pellets (into the grass) before getting serious with my day's shooting.

I'd like your opinions on the key causes of this phenomena please. Is it because:
  • My springers need to warm up?
  • Equalizing air pressures in the rifles each day?
  • Changes in internal friction due to temperature changes as the rifles warm up?
  • Shooter needs more coffee (!) before shooting? LOL
  • Or what....?
Would welcome your thoughts please....



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