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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : My usual questions are always:1-...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=681">RangerPete</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06&nbsp;Aug&nbsp;2025 at 1:20pm<br /><br />My usual questions are always:<br />1- How many fps/FPE is required to get the "hollow point" cup to deform and expand (there by giving it a bigger frontal surface area and delivering more energy into the target)?<br />2- Is the rifle/pistol being used able to produce that much fps/FPE? If not there is no advantage to using a hollow point pellet with that rifle.<br />3- What size grouping do you need, at what distance, to effectively be able to dispatch the pest?<br />4- Is the rifle/pellet combination in question able to produce such groups from that rifle? If not there is no point using that pellet in that rifle. <br />]]>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : A guy I know who does a bit of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=8">Pauly5</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01&nbsp;Aug&nbsp;2025 at 8:12pm<br /><br />A guy I know who does a bit of shooting especially under bridges for pigeons swears by these Javelin hollow points.<div><br></div><div>I remember when I first got my benjamyn pistol and I was using Predator polymags. They dropped pigeons so well at close ranges and I thought they were fantastic until I tried them on paper past 15 m. Certainly not pellet on pellet, but perfect for the job they were doing.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So maybe they are really good as a pest control pellet but not for paper punching.</div><div><br></div><div>Enjoying this discussion though.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 20:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : Thanks Mark - I&amp;#039;ll check...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=420">Myson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 4:45pm<br /><br /><b>Thanks Mark</b> - I'll check his video out.<div><br></div><div>No doubt it'll be well presented and full of useful information!&nbsp; Pete's work is always well analysed and researched!&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div><div><br></div><div>I'll be interested in your personal findings as you try these hollow points!&nbsp; I'd love to see your 5-shot groups at <font color="#00cc33"><b>50 yds</b></font>, firstly with your best pellet then with your hollow points.&nbsp; I think you'll be amazed to see how <i>inaccurate </i>the hollow points are beyond 30 yds.....</div><div><br></div><div>I guess if you're shooting rats or pigeons in barns (out to 25 yds), they'll be fine.&nbsp; But then you'll have to change pellet, adjust your scope settings and re-lead your barrel before taking longer shots?</div><div><br></div><div>Or, I guess you could keep one rifle dedicated to hollow points only?&nbsp; Ummmm.......</div><div><br></div><div>I tried some hollow points once and the results just proved what Gary Wain's experimentation told us.&nbsp; But maybe your rifles will like 'em?!</div><div><br></div><div>Let us know how you get on please.... thanks Mark.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : I agree and have read similar...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=742">JasonEdward</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 12:19pm<br /><br />I agree and have read similar amd we don't favour diablos as the defauly pellet for nothing.<br><br>But in my real world of very average skills MY shooting may not be good enough to show up small variations in accuracy between diablos and hollow points.<br><br>But this thread makes it obvious few are interested in the hollow points.<br><br>Pete does great real world accuracy and lethality/hunting testing of pellets including dissecting out the pellets to assess mushrooming etc. So I look forward to his findings.<br><br>Myson have you seen&nbsp; Pete's JSB Knockout slug testing here:<br><br>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRPnqJgxA1I&amp;t=1829s<div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 12:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : A chap who writes for Airgun World...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=420">Myson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 11:48am<br /><br />A chap who writes for <i>Airgun World</i> completed about <b>2 years</b> of experimentation with all types, shapes and sizes of .177 and .22 pellets (not slugs) using two identical PCP rifles (one of each calibre) and with two chronographs, one at the muzzle and one at the target - over different distances.<div><br></div><div>This <font color="#006699"><b>comprehensive analysis</b></font> came to many interesting conclusions.&nbsp; Two of those conclusions that are relevant here, are:</div><div><ul><li>Hollow Points lose accuracy <b>earlier </b>than the normal diabolo round-noses. They tend to go wobbly after 30-35yds....</li></ul><ul><li>The best overall accuracy at all ranges are the normal diabolo round-noses. They are far more accurate than all the other types....</li></ul><div>Therefore, according to him (and me), you're wasting your money on the "gimmicky" pellets (pointy, hollow, etc) if you want to achieve best accuracy.</div></div><div><br></div><div>I expect its a different matter for slugs (?) but with pellets, I recommend you find the <font color="#009999"><b>best normal diabolo round-nose pellet</b></font> that suits your particular barrel and you'll have the most accurate solution for all ranges.</div><div><br></div><div><b>PS:</b>&nbsp; Gary Wain (the author) also tested a variety of hollow points for accuracy.&nbsp; He tested Dynamic Triple P1's, RWS Super H Points, BSA Interceptors, SMK Victory Implodes, Bisley Pest Control, Beeman Crow Mag, Ultrashock HP, Rem Baracuda Hunter, H&amp;N Baracuda Hunter, Precision Ballistics Mako and Bisley Superfields.</div><div><br></div><div>He found in his (Pulsar) barrels that the Bisley Superfields were best, the SMK Victory Implodes were the worst.&nbsp; But none of them matched the normal round-nosed pellets.....</div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 11:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : If you supply them I&amp;#039;ll give...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=681">RangerPete</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 4:42pm<br /><br />If you supply them I'll give them a go <br />First lets see how far we can get them to shoot stright, then we'll test their performance, see if their hollow points are worth anything. <img src="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : You OK with testing .22s Pete?...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=742">JasonEdward</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 11:29am<br /><br />You OK with testing .22s Pete?]]>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : Send me a tin or two and I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;ll...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=681">RangerPete</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 9:48pm<br /><br />Send me a tin or two and I’ll put them through their paces 😉 👍🏻]]>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : I reckon we need Pete to do some...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=742">JasonEdward</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 3:44pm<br /><br />I reckon we need Pete to do some work on hollow point pellets like he did the slugs...come on Pete - you know you want to!<br><br>By the way, my new old Dreamline with two barrels is sadly waiting for me to fit a scope currently on the Diana so and remains for me, un-fired.&nbsp;<img src="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" />]]>
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   <title>Gun City Javelin .22 18.2 gr Hollow Points ex H&amp;N : No it&amp;#039;s an older guy in Invercargill...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/member_profile.asp?PF=742">JasonEdward</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1214<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2025 at 10:49am<br /><br />No it's an older guy in Invercargill named Gerry who is selling the pellets.]]>
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