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Kiwi Airgunners Forum : For the air arms fans www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ This is an XML content feed of; Kiwi Airgunners Forum : Flub's General Discussion : For the air arms fans Copyright (c) 2006-2012 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 18 May 2026 13:05:35 +0000 Thu, 14 Nov 2024 09:48:49 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.14 360 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1123 Kiwi Airgunners Forum www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_images/logo.jpg www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ For the air arms fans : That's a bit less shocking... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11467#11467 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 14 Nov 2024 at 9:48am

That's a bit less shocking than 7000 for a stock.]]> Thu, 14 Nov 2024 09:48:49 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11467#11467 For the air arms fans : kruzaroad wrote:Holy smokes... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11466#11466 Author: J-S
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 6:40am

kruzaroad wrote:

Holy smokes that much for a stock!
That's a bit of an eye opener.
I actual imagine it would be cheeper for it aluminum as the tooling machines
(mother*#$":/ another rabbit just scooted past the irony)
Um yeah the tooling machines are there, billet aluminum is going to be cheaper than laminating wood sections. The process will be fully automated.
Seems to be a lot of beauty over practically going on here. Mostly by guys who own multiple guns.
In the target shooting world that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face.
I'm betting that you guys have very nice wooden stocked rifles for your viewing pleasure.
As someone who has synthetic stocks for the practically of them but does really amire and love the feel of wood, I see your point but don't think it's a practical view towards this stock. But that is just my view

$7k is for the rifle in laminate stock, the alloy would likely be the same price or perhaps slightly more. The laminate blanks are made in finland - you can buy then direct and are actually pretty good price. cost of materials is probably similar

Wood stocks are likely all CNC with a little hand finishing, and the final finish usually spray lacquer.

The whole XTI50 was designed for practicality; every point adjustable to tailor it to the shooter. Field target is big in UK, so the demand is there vs NZ where its a hunting background. Synthetic definitely better suited to NZ paddock and bush

]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 06:40:54 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11466#11466 For the air arms fans : "Seems to be a lot of beauty... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11465#11465 Author: RangerPete
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 6:35am

"Seems to be a lot of beauty over practically going on here"

Kruza, just because its wood dosent mean its not going to fit you.
A custom made, fitted to you, right down to the last details like the width of your hand across your knuckles stock, is a gorgeous thing indeed. In a grade 5 Turkish Walnut... There are few things better in this world!

Besides the aesthetics and beauty of polished fine grained wood, when it comes to pure fit, there is no mass produced, aluminium, light weight, jointed, bolted together adjustable stock in the world that will even come close to a well fitted, well balanced, custom made wooden stock.
And thats where the difference comes in, the mass produced ones are designed to be made cheaply, but still be adjustable to fit the masses, cheaply.
A custom made stock is a one off, hand made, carved to your exact individual height, reach, hand size, head position etc. it can even be made for a specific scope on your specific rifle to set up the scope as low as possible and have the perfect cheek weld every time. And because its custom made, you pay for that. But if its a rifle or shot gun you are going to shoot a lot, its worth it.

I had a stock custom made for my old work rifle, my .458Lott, by a brilliant gun smith.
It took him 3 months to make the stock, and I went in for numerous fittings, but when it was finished I could shoulder that rifle with my eyes closed, as quick as I could, and every time when I opened my eyes I would be staring straight through the ghost ring and at the target, 10 out of 10 times.
Crafted to be perfectly balanced, it was like an extension of my arms, it just pointed where ever I looked.
And it looked beautiful too

]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 06:35:10 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11465#11465 For the air arms fans : I'm bit curious as to wether... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11464#11464 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 4:31am

I'm bit curious as to wether the butt stock pad on it is on a ball joint. I can't make it out clear enough on the video.
It would seem to me that with the amount of adjustment it has that the butt pad could very well end up not square on with the shoulder.
Is a independent adjustment to the angles of the butt pad something that is used in previous stock designs.
Maybe you guys who more knowledgeable on these things could point me in the right direction here.
I'm pretty much just a shooter and haven't really looked into stock mechanics
]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 04:31:10 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11464#11464 For the air arms fans : Holy smokes that much for a stock!... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11463#11463 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 4:04am

Holy smokes that much for a stock!
That's a bit of an eye opener.
I actual imagine it would be cheeper for it aluminum as the tooling machines
(mother*#$":/ another rabbit just scooted past the irony)
Um yeah the tooling machines are there, billet aluminum is going to be cheaper than laminating wood sections. The process will be fully automated.
Seems to be a lot of beauty over practically going on here. Mostly by guys who own multiple guns.
In the target shooting world that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face.
I'm betting that you guys have very nice wooden stocked rifles for your viewing pleasure.
As someone who has synthetic stocks for the practically of them but does really amire and love the feel of wood, I see your point but don't think it's a practical view towards this stock. But that is just my view

]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 04:04:16 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11463#11463 For the air arms fans : Jack Harris had his EV2 in a custom... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11462#11462 Author: Pauly5
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 4:02am

Jack Harris had his EV2 in a custom wood stock. Not one of them highly adjustable ones, but obviously made for him.]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 04:02:16 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11462#11462 For the air arms fans : Pauly5 wrote:I find this really... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11461#11461 Author: J-S
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 3:37am

Pauly5 wrote:

I find this really interesting, as I too like a nice wooden stock, but know the benefits in a gun fitting you well.

Imagine putting yourself in your most comfortable shooting position where your muscles are relaxed, then making the gun fit you. Your hand, head and shoulder positions are perfect without effort. Most of the time we are having to hold our body to suit the gun. This means you can concentrate on the shot without even thinking about holding the gun.

Now go get a small mortgage and buy one.

Id love to see one in walnut but they generally use laminate; I dont think theres been a walnut stock in that lineage: RN10/Pro target - EV2 - FTP900 - XTI50

And yes, the standard XTI in laminate would push NZ$7k, then you still have to put a scope on it!

Ill put it on the "your dreaming" list

]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 03:37:24 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11461#11461 For the air arms fans : I find this really interesting,... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11460#11460 Author: Pauly5
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Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 1:24am

I find this really interesting, as I too like a nice wooden stock, but know the benefits in a gun fitting you well.

Now go get a small mortgage and buy one.

]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 01:24:40 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11460#11460 For the air arms fans : Interesting stock. You could really... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11452#11452 Author: RangerPete
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Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 9:12am

Interesting stock. You could really make the rifle fit you like a glove.
But I still have a soft spot for beautiful wooden stock.
I do like the cocking lever, and the little slug for a trigger is very interesting indeed!]]> Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:12:19 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11452#11452 For the air arms fans : That stock blows me away. I would... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11449#11449 Author: kruzaroad
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Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 3:48am

That stock blows me away.
I would consider something like that for hunting fantastic.
The adaptablity is awesome.
Only issue for me would be on a springer totally useless.
If you adjust it in the field to more comfortable setting for the position you are in it would affect the vibration through the stock hence poi.
As a for pcp what a boon for being able to mold the gun to yourself.
I'm not sure that it's really that much differnt in the actual mechanics of the firing mech.
But I guess we will see when he puts the xti mech on it at some stage.
You pcp shooters are going to enjoy some great devolpments as time goes on time. Slugs, stocks, more advanced firing set ups,barrels.
Great time to be a pcp shooter]]> Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:48:01 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1123&PID=11449#11449