Kiwi Airgunners Forum : Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ This is an XML content feed of; Kiwi Airgunners Forum : Reviews : Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. Copyright (c) 2006-2012 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 09 Apr 2026 06:02:40 +0000 Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:59:44 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.14 360 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1087 Kiwi Airgunners Forum www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_images/logo.jpg www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/ Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : I'd go with Nunga. Flat heads... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10721#10721 Author: kruzaroad
Subject: 1087
Posted: 21 Sep 2024 at 12:59am

I'd go with Nunga.
Flat heads arnt for hunting. Nor were they designed for hunting. I can't see a flat head doing that well against feather and breast.
Espially at that sort of power.
Hell the 1322 doesn't make through a pidgeon 10m with hades. Same power.
Having said that I don't shoot pidgeons side on, it's either front, head or angled from back coming up under wing towards vitals. They are tree shot so probly more room for getting right angle than clearing a building.
Get a pumper if you want to really drop your power. It takes next to nothing in time to throw a few pumps in for low power.
You can get power ranges from pellet not making past end of barrel to tacking starlings at 50m.
]]> Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:59:44 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10721#10721 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : Nunga, if you were aiming at vitals,... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10718#10718 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 1087
Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 4:16pm

Nunga, if you were aiming at vitals, which I'm sure you were, they might have flown away but they didnt last long, I promise.

I spend a great deal of time testing and trying to work out what the optimal power is to get the perfect amount of penetration with a specific pellet, on a specific target animal.

As a pest controller what I dont want is pellets going stright through a pigeon, or rabbit or sparrow, and disappearing off into the great unknown and going through a roof or smashing a glass window, or killing a neighbours cat, or worse... You have no idea how often a pellet changes direction inside a pest target, and exits in a completely different, totally unpredictable direction.

What I do want is a pellet that penetrates deep enough in the pest animal to reach the vitals, which is usually just over half the diameter of the chest cavity (or the head) and then stops because its used up all its energy to get that far.

If I had the perfect formula of pellet weight, shape, caliber, velocity, power etc. to get a pellet three quarters of the way through any type of pest, through the vitals but never exit out the other side of that pest... well... I'd be the perfect pest controller!
And I WOULD be the epitome of the Wild Wild West... I'd walk in to any job and BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG shoot the crap out of everything that moves because I know my pellets are no risk to anything else because they are never going to exit what I'm shooting! Safe as houses!

Unfortunatly I dont have those magic formulas for each type of pest, so in reality I take a lot of time and care with every single shot I take, always aware of what caliber I'm using, what power level it is producing, am I taking head or chest shots, whats behind the targeted pest, which direction are the neighbours in etc...

Obviously the penetration required to reach the vitals and kill a rabbit is quite different from whats required for a pigeon, and again different for a sparrow.

Long story short, from all the tests I've done with pigeons and .177 combinations of pellets and powers, I find that a .177 round nose pellet at 6.9FPE is really good medicine for pigeons, enough to reach vitals from any angle, and will only occasionally exit a bird.
I am quite certain that your flat nose .177's at 6.5FPE would have reached vitals and all your pigeons are quite dead.
Bear in mind they only drop dead rite there if you hit the brain or cervical vertebrae. A pellet in the vitals may fly away, but its dead on it wings.


Edited by RangerPete - 23 Sep 2024 at 11:22am]]> Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:16:45 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10718#10718 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : Sure can it was only last Friday... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10707#10707 Author: nunga
Subject: 1087
Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 8:53am

Sure can it was only last Friday since we were there. .177 @ 600FPS so just a tad over 6.5 foot pounds
]]> Thu, 19 Sep 2024 08:53:29 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10707#10707 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : Nunga, can you remember what caliber... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10702#10702 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 3:11pm

Nunga, can you remember what caliber and foot pounds you were using?]]> Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:11:42 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10702#10702 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : The flat heads are no good for... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10701#10701 Author: nunga
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 12:16pm

The flat heads are no good for anything bigger than a sparrow. They are very accurate but  I took them to shoot the pigeons. hit every one of them. didnt miss a shot. Problem was been flat head they did not have the penetration and they pretty much just looked at me after i shot them and they flew away lol
]]> Wed, 18 Sep 2024 12:16:51 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10701#10701 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : Wow, at $8 for 500, makes you... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10699#10699 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 9:21am

Wow, at $8 for 500, makes you wonder how we can justify paying $38 for 500 JSB Exacts, or $47 for 500 JSB knockouts!!!]]> Wed, 18 Sep 2024 09:21:57 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10699#10699 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : flat heads are a great pellet... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10697#10697 Author: J-S
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 3:49am

flat heads are a great pellet to try - designed for closer range target shooting and making clean holes.

If you like those, give the RWS club / geco a go too. they are designed as a training pellet for high level target shooting, and when back in stock they are around $8/500 from shooting stuff!

]]> Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:49:23 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10697#10697 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : 100% kill rate, nice. www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10696#10696 Author: Pauly5
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 2:49am

100% kill rate, nice.]]> Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:49:42 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10696#10696 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : The shoot went well. There were... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10695#10695 Author: RangerPete
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 2:45am

The shoot went well. There were only 4 sparrows in the warehouse, but I got them all. 👍🏻]]> Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:45:19 +0000 www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10695#10695 Air Chief, Target Flat Tip pellets. : That's a bonus. I am guessing... www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=1087&PID=10693#10693 Author: Pauly5
Subject: 1087
Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 12:58am

That's a bonus. I am guessing that being a wadcutter they might be less likely to pass through too?

I scored a dozen tins of crosman premier pointed pellets for only a few dollars. They are 7.3 grain and they are very accurate in my sparrow gun, so it's good when it works out like that.

How did the shoot go, or yet to happen?
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